West Coast Bible Texas South African Accreditation

Discussion in 'Accreditation Discussions (RA, DETC, state approva' started by b4cz28, Jun 22, 2017.

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  1. Neuhaus

    Neuhaus Well-Known Member

    So perhaps this minimal level of due diligence should be performed before we declare it to be a fraud next time?

    The first was so easily explainable (that the school's HQ is in SA) that I'm a bit confused as to how you could possibly try to write it off as a trivial detail. The second, while certainly an opinion to which you are entitled, basically leaves no room for any school to ever become RA.

    It seems these days we have two extremes; we have accreditation doesn't matter at all versus accreditation is the only thing that matters. But now we're also starting to see non-academic training making a resurgence in terms of employer acceptance. So, perhaps, we can find a happy place somewhere in the middle.
     
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  2. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

    Black or white is sooo much easier AND it's much more fun to get all strident with everything.:soapbox:
     
  3. heirophant

    heirophant Well-Known Member

    I'm only guessing, but it might conceivably have something to do with enabling WCBC&S to qualify for Texas postsecondary education licensing.

    Scroll down to 'subchapter G' here:

    EDUCATION CODE CHAPTER 61. TEXAS HIGHER EDUCATION COORDINATING BOARD

    I'm curious whether the Dallas branch of this thing has all of the necessary TX approvals.
     
  4. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Is this what you need to see, Heirophant? The good ol' "religious exemption." That's all.

    "WCBCS has received a letter of authorization to operate in the state of Texas and to offer degrees in religious studies. Additionally, WCBCS has obtained authorization from the Texas Workforce Commission to operate in the state of Texas. Also, on October 3, 2011, WCBCS obtained a letter of exemption from the Texas Workforce Commission as granted under Texas Education Code, Section 132.002(a)(2). See the letter here:"

    http://static.squarespace.com/static/5006cb3dc4aa3dba77394b45/t/500ace85e4b016a023c12551/1342885509552/

    J.
     
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  5. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Well, I do now. Here it is: 8528 Koni St, Tsakane, Brakpan, 1548, Gauteng, South Africa

    J.
     
  6. West Coast Bible College & Seminary (WCBCS) is now an accreditation candidate with DEAC (see here). From the looks of it, a couple of site visits have been completed and the school made some substantial changes to curricula, and some changes regarding prerequisites. For example, WCBCS is now requiring a 60 credit-hour graduate degree for entry into their DMin.
     
  7. Garp

    Garp Active Member

    It appears they are serious about obtaining accreditation. One correction is that they don't have "candidacy" as a status but I get what you mean.
     
  8. Right, I don't think DEAC has a candidacy status, but they applied and are pretty far into the process. Btw, would you explain how candidacy status works with the other religious NA? I struggle to grasp it insofar as what it means for recognition especially since some schools who obtain candidacy at say TRACS or ABHE are listed on the CHEA website. IMO, for those seeking to get an NA degree from WCBCS, now would be the time before a price increase.
     
  9. Garp

    Garp Active Member

    Not sure why DEAC never had a "candidacy" status. For the most part those that reach candidacy achieve full accreditation. And yes, they will likely raise Tuition as accreditation is expensive to obtain and maintain. For someone wanting the degree and with a limited budget it probably makes sense to enroll and hopefully graduate with an accredited degree.
     
  10. newsongs

    newsongs Active Member

    A great opportunity for eventual DEAC school.
     
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  11. Garp

    Garp Active Member

    I agree. Occasionally, there are opportunities as with NCU Doctorates where you get in on the ground floor and get it inexpensively as they progress towards accreditation. I believe someone here had that experience with Northcentral (NCU).
     
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  12. Dustin

    Dustin Well-Known Member

    Walden started offering an MS in Data Science which was initially unaccredited so you could have completed as few as 3 and as many as 18 if I'm remembering correctly, based on their timeline for accreditation. The courses would be free until they got financial aid approval. I ended up not going with them. They got approval pretty quick so it would have been an expensive gamble.

    Edit: Unaccredited is not the right word. Unapproved for financial aid.
     

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