Well, well. McCarthy actually acted for the good of the country

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  1. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    The offices are special because they are in the capitol instead of across the street in the office building for House rep offices. The Capitol was originally built big enough to hold all the offices but the House size kept growing as the population grew until they capped the number of reps in the House. So the House offices were moved across the street. The Senators still have offices in the Capitol. There were offices available in the Capitol that were assigned for House use but they kicked Pelosi and Hoyer out of their capitol offices instead of just moving them.
     
  2. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Sooo...will the House GOP elect Trump as Speaker? That would be about as appropriate as Caligula making his horse a Senator.

    Apparently that story has no basis in historical fact. Too bad. Making Trump Speaker would therefore be a uniquely stupid thing to do.
     
  3. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    It's not a "Speaker's office." Each Speaker handles these offices differently. Pelosi gave Hastert some really sweet digs, for example, but each situation is different. It's about courtesy and tradition. What makes this particularly low is that McCarthy gave her that space and now they're taking it away. Mid-term, no less.
     
  4. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    ^^^THAT!^^^
     
  5. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Yes, it would. No, they won't. Not because he's not a Member of the House. But because the job actually requires skill, experience, and and a willingness to actually do it.

    As president, a zillion staffers could (mostly) cover for his failures in those areas. As Speaker, he would actually have to do it.

    It would be wonderfully ironic, however, if the Republicans appointed a Speaker who literally has a gag order against him.

    Oh, another reason: if the Speaker is convicted of a felony, he/she must step down. No questions. It's a House rule, so they'd have to change it before making him Speaker. Not. Gonna. Happen.
     
  6. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    FYI, Spotify has it.
     
  7. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Speaking of which, the House has stayed the same size since 1913, while the population is some 3.5-times as big. We are woefully under-represented. Rectifying this would also return balance between small and large (population) states. North Dakota would gain 3 or 4 seats. California would gain about 150.

    In the US, we have 435 representatives, one for every 760,000 people. In the UK, the House of Commons has an MP for every 92,000 people. It would be nice to have better representation. Of course a House that size might be a tad harder to manage!
     
  8. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Thanks, Rich.

    ...Then Judy Roderick's "Woman Blue," "Lightning Hopkins with His Brothers Joel and John Henry / with Barbara Dane (or any other Barbara Dane album) and Charlie Byrd's "House of the Rising Sun" are three good reasons to get on board with Spotify.

    Charlie Byrd was a celebrated jazz musician who always played a nylon-string classical guitar (as does jazz great Earl Klugh).
    Charlie's version of "House of the Rising Sun" was first released on "Charlie's Choice - Jazz at the Showboat," in 1960.

    I have a full-length book devoted entirely to the history and myriad recordings of that song. The ONE version not mentioned? Charlie's -my favourite. I've often wondered why but I'm too lazy to follow it up.
     
  9. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Back in August 1979, I had the pleasure of seeing three great jazz guitarists: Charlie Byrd, Herb Ellis and Barney Kessel, sharing the same stage, at Artpark, Lewiston NY. Stellar performances by all three.

    Unfortunately, they're gone, now: Charlie, in 1999, Barney, in 2004 and Herb, in 2010. They are loved and missed. Glad I got to see them. I can hardly believe it was 44 years ago...
     
  10. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member


    This, of course, has the biggest impact on the electoral college. It's making the approximation of democracy, known as the electoral college, to become less and less accurate to the point that like almost half the time the electoral college winner did not win the popular vote.
     
  11. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Johann, as you well know, people can be passionate about music performance all out of proportion to the significance of a dispute. I don't know why. I can understand being driven in one's OWN performance or interpretation but insisting that OTHERS adhere to that standard seems odd to me. Yet the attitude is common.

    My piano teacher studied with a group that included genuine Bach scholars. She tells me tales of actual fistfights breaking out over how to play a particular ornament. The real irony is, we don't actually know.

    I am finishing one of the simpler Chopin Preludes. My teacher provided me with excerpts from letters by contemporaneous performers describing how to express various phrases. These people KNEW Chopin yet they don't agree.

    So maybe Charlie Byrd's version is missing because someone REALLY DID NOT LIKE IT. I can't say this attitude makes sense to me but there's a lot of precedent for it is all I'm saying.
     
  12. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Doesn't make any sense to me either, especially in this particular case. In the book in question, I felt that the author was making an honest, scholarly attempt to document - and comment fairly on - all sources and recordings of this particular song. The book was well-written and seemed fastidiously thorough, except for this one anomaly - Charlie Byrd's version was missing. A stellar performance, by a well-known artist. I'm still wondering why. I think this author would have included it, even if he disliked it intensely -and he would have said as much - and explained why.

    I'm thinking that, due completely to inadvertence, it may not have shown up in his otherwise excellent and comprehensive research. If you read the blurb, it has a good sense of what the book's all about. It may change your mind - or it may not. You be the judge - you are one, anyway, right? :)

    Book is here: https://www.amazon.ca/Chasing-Rising-Sun-Journey-American/dp/0743278984
     
    Last edited: Oct 6, 2023
  13. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    My final take: If "high lonesome" Roscoe Holcomb was in there - and he was - Charlie Byrd should have been. Two greats - and SO different! I celebrate them, both. :)
     
  14. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Even if it were historical, what do you have against Caligula's horse?
     
  15. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    My opinion (which I've discovered elsewhere is unpopular) is that there's no reason in 2023 that members of the House need to be in Washington, D.C. at all, and as such, there's no reason not to have 10,000 members. Even that would be one for every 33,000 Americans. As far as being hard to manage... would it?
     
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  16. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    He kept voting "neigh" on everything.
     
  17. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    "Floor" debates might get a little long.
     
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  18. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    “…aaand the horse you rode in on!”
     
  19. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    “Inadvertent”? How? Seriously, how?
     
  20. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Let representatives deliberate through writing. When's the last time a floor speech was anything more than opportunities for members to grandstand? It worked to get the Constitution ratified.
     

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