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  1. tadj

    tadj Active Member

    A fantastic new article by the Canadian professor of politics, Eric Kaufmann (Bio: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Kaufmann)

    Link: https://archive.is/vZk9b

    Trudeau’s mass migration cult is destroying Canada

    Quality of life, per capita income and social cohesion are being sacrificed to a third world ‘population trap’

    When wokeness, the making sacred of historically-disadvantaged minorities, takes control of a society like Canada, the effects go far beyond plans to stock tampons in men’s bathrooms. There, taboo-driven mass immigration is not only resulting in cultural tensions but in economic paralysis and soaring housing costs.

    ...these policies are endorsed not only by the Left-wing coalition government of Justin Trudeau but by the so-called “populist” conservative leader Pierre Poilievre, who only speaks about building homes, not reducing immigration. This is partly because he is a neoliberal who cares about little beyond economics. But he is also alive to the sword of “racism” that the progressive media holds over the neck of any Canadian politician who dares to question mass migration.

    Canada’s elite suffers from a syndrome known as “Canada’s pro-immigration consensus”. This has its origins in Canada losing its identity with the death of the British Empire in the 1950s and 60s. British loyalism had been the country’s dominant ideology and raison d’etre since the American Revolution, but lay in ruins. The vacuum was filled with 1960s vintage left-liberalism, with Canada reinvented as a kinder, gentler United States.

    Pierre Trudeau, Justin’s father, ushered in more liberal immigration and the country’s disastrous 1971 Multiculturalism Act. Its 1988 successor, created an official duty to “promote the understanding that multiculturalism is a fundamental characteristic of the Canadian heritage and identity”, and the new 1982 constitution allowed for naked racial discrimination in hiring and criminal sentencing. Any questioning of immigration is viewed as offensive to minorities, hence out of bounds.

    Père Pierre has passed his worldview down to his son Justin, who gushed to a New York Times reporter upon attaining office in 2015 that Canada has “no core identity, no mainstream.” This boast, that the country is post-national and therefore more modern and morally superior to others, is rooted in the same cultural left set of beliefs (“majorities bad, minorities good”) that has given rise to speech policing and reverse discrimination, the hallmarks of woke. Wokeness in turn helps shut down debate over immigration.

    Canada is a sterling example of how cultural leftism meshes with the expansionist ethos of global capitalism. Nothing symbolizes this progressive neoliberal synthesis better than Toronto’s 18-lane, perpetually snarled, Highway 401, accompanying the unchecked urban sprawl that is a feature of the country’s major metropolitan areas. In Vancouver, when locals resist expansion, developers cry “racist” and “xenophobe” to relax zoning and planning restrictions. EThere is constant pressure on established neighbourhoods, lowering the quality of life for existing residents.

    The lie that immigration is a solution to the ageing problem (apparently immigrants don’t age) is routinely trotted out, with no opposition, to justify higher numbers. The apotheosis of this thinking is the Century Initiative, an elite lobby group straddling the corporate world, academia and non-profit sector which is pushing for a supersize Canada of 100 million people, up from 40 million today. This will produce a nation of sprawling mega-Dubais bloated out of all proportion to the traditional landscape of small cities and towns.

    Quality of life, per capita income and social cohesion must be sacrified to reach this maximum migration utopia. It may be too late for Canada to step back from the brink. Britain still has a choice. Let’s hope it makes the right one.


     
  2. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Typical Right Wing rant. The good Professor probably displays the Red Ensign on Empire Day.
     
  3. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Well, at least one Canadian here agrees with you, on that. :)

    From the Prof's Wiki page:

    He has called "woke" ideas "a battle for the foundations of our civilisation" and has expressed support for Florida governor Ron DeSantis, arguing at the 2022 British Conservative Party conference that the party should follow DeSantis's lead.[14] For Kaufmann, although some of his educational policies "go too far", "DeSantis is the future of conservatism"

    I'm guessing you don't care much for this guy, Nosborne. Neither do I. :)
    Prof. Kaufmann calls himself a "liberal national conservative." ????
     
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  4. tadj

    tadj Active Member

  5. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    From the article: "Trump, not Cruz, won the 2016 Republican primary." For this, are we supposed to be thankful, or something? :)

    "Children should learn about the excesses of utopianism (read: Mao, Stalin) alongside those of Nazism or the Confederacy. They should hear as much about indigenous slavery and inter-tribal genocide as they do about the sins of white settlers. Mughal, Aztec or Ashanti imperialism should inform any discussion of British imperialism." And of course, they should learn about Slavery conditions etc. in America.

    My Take: Children should hear about British Imperialism when they study those countries affected by it. They should hear about Mao, Stalin , and Mughal, Aztec or Ashanti imperialism when they study those countries. And other countries' perceived wrongdoings should NEVER be used to mitigate what was done by British Imperialists. Indigenous slavery? Yes they should hear about that. They should get an idea of the spectrum of slavery. There are 50 million slaves in the world today. That's more than four times the number of captured Africans sent to the Americas, from the early 17th century to the 19th. About 10.5 million survived the passage. Those are all terrible numbers.

    They should also learn about slavery in the Ancient World - Greece, Rome - and Egypt, the first nation of record to import captured Africans as slaves. (1750 BCE). Slavery does not have one face - any more than slaves do. Children should learn to recognize all the permutations.

    I don't like much of what Prof. Kaufmann espouses. And the writing smacks of demagoguery. I think Orban would like this guy, in general. And DeSantis - for sure. I don't at all.
     
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  6. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Oops. Sorry - that's me, not Prof. Kaufmann. That sentence got into the wrong paragraph. Dang the timer.
     
  7. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

  8. tadj

    tadj Active Member

    You can label these opinion pieces as 'right wing rants', but the raised immigration-related issues seem to matter a whole lot to ordinary people in Canada and the U.S., as shown by this piece in today's The Economist (getting this thread back on American track)

    American immigration: "How the border could cost Biden the election"

    Link: https://archive.is/lQJg4
     
  9. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Note too that the good Professor doesn't even LIVE in Canada anymore. He teaches at the University of London (and that's not London, Ontario).
     
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  10. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    I can't speak for Canadians but I can say that a sizeable fraction of Americans are willing to support a white supremacist Party offering a fascist Presidential candidate. An argument can be made that slavery was our original sin and that we still haven't got past the consequences. So yeah, the Professor's views are in line with too many Americans for comfort. Those views are still founded in fraud and lies and their consequences are still immoral for all that.
     
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  11. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Did I miss something? I didn't see any mention of Canada or Canadians in the Economist piece. None whatsoever. It showed me NOTHING about "Canadian concerns." I think the current Immigration Minister, the Hon. Marc Miller, is anti-immigrant, I thought the same of his predecessor. One Federal attitude in Canada is "we're going to have to cut WAY down on visas for students...

    Why? First, it should be remembered that visa students pay top dollar - about 2 1/2 times the domestic fee, to go to our schools. They often come with the hope of becoming Canadians, working and living here, after they finish school. What better ticket to a decent Canadian job than a Canadian credential? I'm all for it. Educated, smart, young and willing to work. Is there a better recipe for success in Canada? I think not. I like these people. It is my privilege to have some as friends. My friends are NOT to be messed with. I have spoken. I was an immigrant once, too.

    Canada has the same problem as the US. Some of our top people are just plain crackers. And nasty, too.
     
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  12. tadj

    tadj Active Member

    The Economist piece speaks to American concerns over immigration. I've mentioned the switch to the U.S. side of things in the post. There are polls showing that close to a half of Canadians believe that there is too much immigration into the country. Of course, you can dismiss this "other half" as racist, white supremacist, or whatever. But I don't do that.
     
  13. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    And I'll go on record as being one Canadian who doesn't want him back.
     
  14. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    You don't know my mind. Don't assume you do. And if I thought HALF this country was racist, white supremacist etc - I'd be long gone. But we sure as hell have our share -- no doubt about that. Many were immigrants once, themselves. And I see supremacist garb quite a bit. "La Meute" (The Wolf Pack), Sons of Odin, etc.

    https://www.cbc.ca/cbcdocspov/features/white-nationalism-and-right-wing-extremism-arent-new-to-canada
     
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  15. tadj

    tadj Active Member

    I just think that it's racist to believe that an immigrant must always support higher immigration levels and can never adopt a different position on the matter. It makes it sound like immigrants must always think in a certain way about these issues.
     
  16. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    I'm not saying half of the country is racist. But I believe most racists don't think that they're racist. I've mentioned many times that my parents were racist. They just didn't know it. They thought that blacks were less intelligent but better athletes than whites. They thought that Mexicans and American Indians were okay. They believed they came from Israel. That's what the LDS church taught. Also the LDS church at the time taught that blacks wore the mark of Cain, being black. Therefore were inferior and couldn't hold the priesthood. Anyway, besides their racists beliefs they weren't bad people.

    Anyway, my point is, you might like some of the racist folks running around. I mean I'd have hard time being comfortable with someone that was proud of being racist but folks like my parents aren't too bad. ;)
     
  17. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    An immigrant does NOT have to support higher immigration levels. Anyone, immigrant or otherwise can make up their own mind. But if they give racist reasons for their non-support, well...you know. And it's disappointing to me, that I hear such reasons ... all too often.
     
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  18. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    No? The book you directed me to had a few things to say.... about OTHER LDS beliefs and practices.
    EG Plural marriages -- aging man + child /teenage girl. Oh yeah, they got some bad people. Fella named Warren Jeffs is doing time now...

    Google: Jeffs is incarcerated at the Louis C. Powledge Unit of the Texas Department of Criminal Justice near Palestine, Texas

    Wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Jeffs#:~
     
  19. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    :)

    Well you got me there but that's a different issue.
     
  20. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Of course it is. I never said otherwise. You said "besides their racist beliefs they weren't bad people." I say - some of 'em were / are. Mr. Jeffs is far from the only one.
     

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