Starting my 2nd Doctorate at Capitol Technology University

Discussion in 'IT and Computer-Related Degrees' started by dl_mba, Aug 14, 2023.

  1. dl_mba

    dl_mba Member

    Logged on here after several years.
    I hope all are doing well here. I still remember interacting with many members here like it was yesterday and learnt a lot here from all you experts.

    I completed my DBA at Grenoble Ecole de Management, France back in 2019 (2012~2019). Had a great experience there. I would say, they have one of the best managed DBA programs out there. Made life long friends and co-authors.

    Reached out to Dr. Ian McAndrew at CapTechU a few months back and they were willing to transfer/waive 48 credits towards a PhD program. (I had considered Dakota State, MarymountU, Penn State for a 2nd doctorate) Decided to pursue PhD in Artificial Intelligence (I need to complete 18 credits for a 2nd Doctorate).
    Will keep visiting here often.
    If you have any questions about the program or anything in general about DBA/PhD, I would love to answer if I can.
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  2. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    What kind of chucklehead would go do a second doctorate? :D

    Good luck with your research. I hope you will share it with the board.
  3. AsianStew

    AsianStew Moderator Staff Member

    @dl_mba , that's awesome, it's amazing they're allowing over 1/2 (50%) of the doctorate to be transferred into the degree! I wonder if they would allow individuals who have international DBA/PhD into this program and also with this reduction in credits... I don't know, this sounds like those ABD programs that allow students to transfer the bulk of their credits through projects, research/study, or something such as published works for those in the EU/UK. Tuition is amazing at $950+fees/credit, it'll probably end up close to $18-$19K for this doctorate, this pricing is on-par with NA institutions such as IAULA and VUL both being accredited by TRACS.
  4. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    @dl_mba I've read many times that Grenoble is a great business school and the degrees are very well-regarded. "Triple-Crown" accreditation - AACSB-AMBA -EQUIS. A DBA there? Impressive achievement. And congratulations on your choice of a PhD program. All the best in your Capitol Technology U. venture. AI has become SO important - and things "change up" in AI so quickly. It's a real challenge, for astute scholars.

    One question. A small thing - no biggie at all. You hold a DBA and you're entering a PhD program. Shouldn't the title of this thread be "Starting my 2nd Doctorate at Capitol Technology University?" Or do you already hold a first PhD earned somewhere else?
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  5. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    I have a few threads here on CapTech. I wouldn't say tuition is amazing. It's kind of on the expensive side. The only saving grace is their willingness to transfer in so many doctoral credits. Since most people don't have 48 doctoral credits, these are $60k degrees.
  6. dl_mba

    dl_mba Member

    Here are the reasons to pursue 2nd Doctorate:
    1. I have to do only 18 credits. My company pays $5250every year for tuition and I can get this degree for free. Plus i will maintain my academic status.
    2. I have a Business Doctorate and adding a Computer Science Doctorate will open more doors to teach in a different discipline.
    3. I love the fact that a PhD will be offered for writing a research paper (a big one in this case) and also I am focusing on a research gap that will add a little value to existing knowledge in AI.
  7. dl_mba

    dl_mba Member

    Yes, my DBA is international. I had to get an evaluation done and an official transcript from Grenoble to get the credits transferred.
    I also heard they would honor existing doctoral credits towards the PhD program.
  8. dl_mba

    dl_mba Member

    Thank you. I cherish my experience at GEM. Grenoble Ecole de Management is an impressive Business School. Triple-crown is something they have earned with their quality of programs and also well defined process across the business school. The campus is beautiful and professors are approachable and friendly (at least in my case).
    Capitol has a an amazing list of impressive PhD holders coming from from DOD, NASA etc.

    Yes, the topic should have been "2nd Doctorate", if there is a way to change it, please let me know.
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  9. dl_mba

    dl_mba Member

    Yes, the tuition is on the higher side, DSU's tuition is good as per my research and they wanted me to do 30 credits (against 18 at CapTech), which worked out same as in CapTech. Plus PhD in AI was interesting to me.
    Dakota State University do have a professor with CapTech Doctorate. I had a chat with him and he regarded CapTech PhD to be on par with DSU in terms of Quality and reputation. This was his opinion.
  10. TEKMAN

    TEKMAN Semper Fi!

    Follow the money, The $900,000 AI Job Is Here by WSJ.

  11. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Sorry to say, I don't believe members can change it. I'm not sure if moderators can, either. I'm asking, below. If not - don't give it a second thought. We all know what you mean, now. It's all good and I wish you every success.

    @SteveFoerster Can you do this? If not, no biggie. Thanks.
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  12. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    Correction: 42 transfer credits, not 48.
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  13. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Here I am... brain the size of a planet...

    ...just kidding. Changed.
  14. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    And here I am... brain the size of a peanut... Thanks, Steve. :)
  15. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    For those who haven't read it/seen it, I'm not quite that big a narcissist; it's a reference to HHGG:
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  16. dl_mba

    dl_mba Member

    Yes, its 42 credits not 48. Thanks for correcting.
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  17. siersema

    siersema Active Member

    What does a transfer of credits mean in the context of CTU? As I understand it, just from reading here, they are a dissertation-only style of program. Normally, I think you transferred to a course, say 810 Accounting, and so they eliminate a similar course. In this context is transfer credit eliminating any of the new programs' courses or is it really just a reduction of the total price for the same program?
  18. Dustin

    Dustin Well-Known Member

    I believe @sanantone has some experience here. They are not dissertation-only, but the coursework is all focused on writing the dissertation. The PhD is 60 credits. Waiving 42 credits leaves 18 credits which could be 6 credits of Artificial Intelligence Research Proposal, 6 credits of Artificial Intelligence Doctoral Writing, and 6 credits of Artificial Intelligence Doctoral Defense.
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  19. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    Technically, all but one or two of their doctoral programs are dissertation-only. Because the U.S. system is not designed around these types of programs, CapTech follows the American semester hour system for what they call European-style doctorates. When you transfer credits, you're not really reducing any work; you're reducing time and cost. In other words, they're stretching out the dissertation process over 60 credits for accreditation and financial aid purposes, but those extra credits have no real value. They're filler.
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  20. AsianStew

    AsianStew Moderator Staff Member

    Forgot to ask a couple of things last week:

    1) How did you get the 42 credit waiver if your previous credits were the DBA, did you have an undergrad in Comp Science or Masters in a related field?

    2) How were you able to get the 42 credit waiver applied to the PhD in AI vs the PhD in Technology?

    On their website, the PhD in Technology was the only program I see that offered 3 pathways to getting the degree, and option #3 was the 42 credit waiver for individuals who have doctoral studies.

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