Schumer's speech

It appears UN, BBC and many others lie much more.

 

Well...um. "Fault" in war is rarely so clear. Hamas definitely started this round with a large and brutal terrorist attack. But it seems increasingly obvious that Israel is following the Kahane-ist doctrine of using such attacks to justify aggressive war. Then there's all that history. And the ongoing seizure and settlement of West Bank territory.

"Fault" is elusive.

 

This is not from Fox news, this is according to Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs

Ministry of Foreign Affairs: "Israel does not limit humanitarian aid to Gaza" Barak Ravid
Following the decision of the International Court of Justice in The Hague, according to which Israel must take all measures to ensure the transfer of humanitarian aid to Gaza, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs issued a different statement tonight (Friday): "South Africa has failed again in its cynical attempts to limit Israel's fundamental right and its duty to protect its citizens.
Israel does not impose limits on the amount of essential humanitarian aid that enters the Gaza Strip, in particular on food, water, shelter equipment and medicines, and is not interested in harming the civilian population."

 

Israelis see it differently. They are the ones who are dealing with it.

This round? Every round the Terrorists and the infrastructure to destroy Israel increased, the plan of the enemies of Israel and enemies of the West in general was multi front attack on Israel.
If not now, then when? We see with Hezbollah in Lebanon amassed huge power, and it all is prepared for destruction of Israel.
Israel had to destroy the infrastructure of Hamas in earlier operations, but mentality of non completing task only worsened and created the ring to "suffocate" Israel.
And the radicalized Islamists who work very hard, to radicalize people around the world.
The big mistake was failure to support the Palestinian Authority in Gaza in 2006. Bibi's gamble of dividing Gaza and Rammala (PA) appeared to failed massively. But who knows if PA option had been much better, hard to say because of Iranian pressure, I think if PA was in charge these wars wouldn't have happened.

It appears to me that almost the entire global media has co n-spired to destroy Israel, not Hamas.
Yet another victory for Islamist aggressors against democracy...

 

You didn't read my response. It agreed that the statement was made, "Israel does not limit humanitarian aid to Gaza" I then highlighted the response because I'm very aware from past interactions with you that you don't really read my responses. So, I highlighted the important piece in the failed hope that you might read it anyway. Israel must inspect all truck cargos before allowing them thru. This in practice takes weeks to wait for trucks to be allowed in.

Fox is a poor source for information because they don't tell the whole story. In this example they left out the fact that it takes weeks to approve each truck for entry. I know I've gone past the one short paragraph so I doubt you're reading this anyway.

 

The question is, how DOES the current Israeli government see it? As legitimate defense or as an opportunity to expel or kill a population whose land it wants for settlement? You should not ignore what Minister Smotrich and his supporters have said and are saying now.

 

Definitely not to kill population that what biased and hostile media and years of demonizing Israel Islamic propaganda been working on, even before Oct 7th, they successfully
persuaded and spread lies about Israel, apartheid and other lies.
The reports of deaths in Gaza are from Hams ministry of health, and they distort the number of children and women killed, the numbers out of 33,000 of man of fighting age are much higher, again many are combatants or combatants/terrorists in training more like 14,000 out of 33,000 reported are confirmed terrorists. Many more thousands are man similar age of terrorists that are inconclusive if they are terrorist or not. Unfortunately like in any war women and children also among the dead.
Expel Hamas and Islamic Jihad, yes, to destroy their military capabilities, yes, to free hostages by applying military pressure, yes.
Israel disengaged from Gaza, left Gaza in 2005, 2006.,
Are there forces in the Israeli coalition that would like to see Palestinian Arabs expelled? Yes. Are they majority? No.

Jew haters don't look at what a Jew is doing, or saying they hate a Jew because he/she is a Jew no mater what Jews are saying, doing, or wearing.
Not all Arabs hate Jews, but all antisemites hate Jews.

 

Hamas and Iran are the ones who sacrificed the Gaza population on the altar of jihad.

 

And Israel is the obedient willing executioner of many thousands of women and children thanks to Netanyahu and his right-wing supporters.

 

False accusations, you are wrong.
Unfortunately, in a war civilians get killed, but it's not Israels goal to kill civilians and never was.
It wasn't US goal when we went after Alcaida and Bin Ladden or the IS.
AS I mentioned in a previous post, Israel does a lot to prevent civilian deaths in Gaza. The ration per Terrorists killed and civilians that killed is the lowest.
Hamas ministry of health is not a trust wordy source.
US has the #'s and as I mentioned the higher #s are of combatants and man of combat age.

 

You are wrong. You don't want to face the truth. Just like your false claim that Israel lets in food and aid trucks with no limits. You ignore the fact that it takes weeks for Israel to approve trucks for entry into Gaza. The population is on the verge of mass famine. That is the fault of Netanyahu not the UN as you falsely stated.

 

US Built facility/port will be able to provide 2 million meals a day.There are some concerns for safety, but things are moving toward providing help.

Also, a plan proposed for a force to replace Hamas to be a multi Arab county force. Something Israeli DM discussed with US SD.
I think the fact that it takes time to approve only means that early start, so aid is moving.

I can be wrong, but I do read and watch a lot of Israeli news, in addition to US and other news.
Furthermore, I have relatives and friends in Israel and have Israeli Arab friends in the US. So my perspective is different.

 

Don't you believe it, Lerner. These Ultra Right theocrats have never supported a Palestinian State and in fact want an Arab-free Israel.

 

They ALSO want a democracy-free Israel.

 

You have the right to be an apologist for Netanyahu and his government, Lerner, but you may find the going rough as you watch events unfold.

 

I don't think I am appologyst for Bibi. Actually critical of him.
More of concerned for Democratic Secured Israel. And see the dark clouds that are above world Jews, and West democracy as well.
I liked few Israeli PMs, Shimon Peres was one of my favored.

 

The reports all said Defense Minister Yoav Gallant had informed Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that he had made headway on the matter during his visit to Washington this week.

The force would be composed of troops from three different unnamed Arab countries — though not Saudi Arabia or Qatar, the latter being a longtime patron of Hamas that is one of the mediators in hostage-for-truce talks. Some reports intimated that Egypt and the UAE were two of the countries, and that the third also has a peace treaty with Israel. The force would be managed by the US, but with no American forces on the ground.



The idea is backed by the United States, the reports said. The force would likely be armed to uphold law and order and would work with Gazans who don’t have links to Hamas, ostensibly figures linked to the Palestinian Authority. US support, however, is contingent on Israel beginning to implement a post-war plan for the rehabilitation of Gaza, such as Gallant’s “day after” plan, which he presented three months ago, the reports said.

 

Some critical thoughts

As a result of the leadership preoccupation with a - "the total destruction of Hamas" It appears Bibi ignores the existing strategic threats to the State of Israel - the Iranian nuclear threat advancing at a dizzying pace without interruption, and the conventional threat of 250 thousand missiles, rockets And UAVs that were built in the last twenty years as a stranglehold around Israel by Iran and its metastases.

Last thing Israel needs is to loose worlds support.

 

Should have written West.

But again, this is elections year and actions speak louder then words. Theatrics to please voters vs actions.