Saint Regis University

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  1. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    @Johann766 And I'm guessing for accreditation, you have to have some kind of Dominican presence - a rented office, maybe - but likely aren't required to live there year round. In other Caribbean jurisdictions, I've heard that to run a distance school, you have to at least have rented some office space -- and have established a local bank account. That gets you a license some places - you operate legally, but it isn't accreditation.
     
  2. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    No idea. Maybe it's the Chief's concept of an alternative to the International Bar Association. These folks: https://www.ibanet.org/
    When I "cross over" - if I find the Chief, I could ask him. ...but how would I get back to you? :)

    BTW - His World Law Bar organization seems to have gone to its reward along with the Chief. No reference in the cyberdirectories. Haven't had a chance to go to the Archive (wayback) yet.
     
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  3. Johann766

    Johann766 Active Member

    Well if I wanted to set up a legal "university" that is legally allowed to award Bachelors Masters and PhDs but these diplomas are just not state-recognized I´d probably go to Switzerland, it´s closer to my home country Germany than Dominica :D.

    But I guess what Steve Foerster is longing for is real state accreditation in Dominica and according to this page I find only one single private institution that has such an accreditation:
    http://nab.gov.dm/services/accreditation/accredited-institutions

    I guess meeting all the accreditation requirements comes at a price and I don´t know how serious Steve is about making that investment....still very interesting, it´s the first time I read about a forum member who is trying to start a University.
     
  4. Messdiener

    Messdiener Active Member

    I know we've discussed it, but I was simply pointing out that this is still something that many people do worry about.

    In North America, my experiences had been with animal services, balloon services, jazz services, and so forth. And no, not all at the same parish. It seemed to be a lot of regular gimmicks to bring people in. I know some High Church, Anglo-Catholic parishes exist within the Episcopal Church, but for whatever reason, I never managed to attend one. (Though, I did attend a very High Church Lutheran church in my very early years, complete with a communion rail, altar-facing worship, and so on. It had a very medieval, Roman Catholic feel to the place!)

    In Asia, Anglican communities seemed less gimmicky, more along the lines of a Do-It-Yourself type of services. Sometimes, I found folks sitting around in a circle with guitars, reading Bible verses, interspersed with commentary. Other places, communities looked slightly closer to a modern Catholic service, oftentimes sans vestments, and with the Anglican minister choosing whatever readings he wanted. Outward symbols and rituals were up to the individual minister, depending on what he felt comfortable with. Sometimes, you got the standard order of the service like at many places: readings, homily, communion. Other times, things were shaken up a bit. Again, up to the individuals leading their communities.

    Everyone's mileage will vary. But these have been what I've encountered with Anglicans and Episcopalians across two continents now. From videos I've seen in the UK proper, services can be incredibly High, especially when it comes to Vespers services and the like. I do hope to someday pay a visit to some of the great churches of England.

    I'm not sure what pedigree has to do with anything, but rather a perceived faithfulness to the apostolic tradition. Naturally, each Church has taken its own spin on that, whether it be the Latins, Eastern Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, Assyrians, or various stripes of Protestants. Some focus on papal pronouncements, others on Councils, still others on Church Fathers, and vast swaths of Christians look to Sola Scriptura. Each variation (or combination thereof) attracts different folks, and thus we have different Churches or communions of Churches today. Again, not an attack, just a statement of fact.
     
  5. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    I had a conversation regarding doing some work for New World as it was being set up. Honored by the request, I had to turn it down due to bandwidth. But it was an interesting notion and one I would not hesitate being associated with, especially from a developmental standpoint.
     
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  6. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Swiss Cantonal schools? You'd have LOTS of competition. I'd call it cut-throat competition, in some cases. Better get some dual and triple awards ready. Make some friends with universities in Mexicostaragua. Cambodia. Yemen. Uzbekistan. Anywhere you can. :eek:
     
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  7. Messdiener

    Messdiener Active Member

    Sounds like we need to start a DI agency to help set these things up, since we know so much about it!

    I'll be the first customer. :D
     
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  8. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Good. Send me all your money and we'll get you started. "Die Alte und Freie Schweizerische Universität von Messdiener." (Gegründet im Jahr MCCCLXVIII)

    Which Canton do you prefer? Vaud? Schaffhausen? Zug, perhaps? We're flexible. We'll even throw in a free Latin motto: "Ostende nobis pecuniam." Show us the money! :)
     
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  9. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Perhaps a different motto: "Intra Stultus. Discede Doctor." Enter as a fool. Leave as a Doctor. :)
     
  10. Messdiener

    Messdiener Active Member

    Sounds brilliant. Let's do the Canton of Thurgau.

    Do you accept DegreeCoin? It's a new cryptocurrency I've just developed. I'll offer you 1,000 DC for the initial setup. Blockchain is definitely the future!
     
  11. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    OK but I must have the actual tokens -1,000 of them, all 24K gold, crown-size, one troy ounce - 33.9g apiece. Let me know when they're ready. :)
     
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  12. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Bumpity. I don't think there is any wrong being done by the lawyers here. Doubtless, they're all licensed to practise law in Dominica. Their job is to register - in Dominica, International Business Corporations - IBC's - a known, legally-permissible type of incorporation.
    The lawyer is not doing anything nefarious that I can see. But you're a lawyer, so maybe you can - and would be kind enough to explain it to me. Where they are, I believe using the word University in the Corp. I.D. is allowed by law. That may bepart of the reason why quite a few of these "University IBCs" have been set up in Dominica - I'm not sure.

    What the principals and others do afterwards, via the corporation? And where they do it? Why would the lawyers know? Why should they be concerned? All they did is register the Company in Dominica, right. I think their responsibility begins and ends there, no?

    World Bar? I don't think there is such a thing... is there? Or maybe it's a place where you can get a drink in Singapore... or Dominica, perhaps. Think about Mossack-Fonseca (law firm) and the Panama Papers.
     
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  13. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Please forgive me for above post. Nosborne's question about the World Bar referred to an organization spearheaded by Archbishop Chief Alexander Swift Eagle Justice PhD, D.D. etc, head of a couple of Universities, professor at International University of Fundamental Studies in St Petersburg, Russia, Head of the Native American Church, the Mexican Catholic Church (not RC) etc. etc.

    And here's poor sap Johann in the wee hours, thinking @nosborne48 was talking about "schools" set up by IBC on Dominica.
    No -- he wasn't. He was clearly talking about MY post. #42 in this thread. Swift Eagle Justice -- AGAIN.

    Apologies to @nosborne48 and all participants in the thread. 2:00 am. Me go nap now. Tomorrow Sunday. Me go Church. Atheist Church. Lots of nice people, like me. Night-night.
     
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  14. Michael Burgos

    Michael Burgos Active Member

    Oof. Very insightful. The elaborate subterfuge comes off like something you'd see in Bunyan's Vanity Fair.

    Seems they're enjoying a bit of revival as a sort of tradprot alternative.
     
  15. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    Are they? I admit I'm no longer following Ortho scene. Real WRO communities, last I checked, existed within the Antiochian Archdiocese and ROCOR. When ROCOR suddenly sent Bp. Jerome Shaw to retirement and suspended bunch of priests he ordained, 10 years ago, it seemingly marked the end of them trying to actively develop WRO communities. The vibe on the Antiochian side seemed to be pretty much the same. Did something change?
     
  16. Michael Burgos

    Michael Burgos Active Member

    If my twitter feed is an indication, I think so.
     
  17. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    Well, good for them. ROCOR or AOCANA? From what I can quickly google, both are still pretty darn small.

    (personal assessment: WRO is a valid expression of the Church. TBH, though, I no longer see what is it so valuable there that can't be found in a real Western Rite, Roman Catholic Church. Except, as Messdiener said, the need of some former Protestants to give that middle finger to the Vatican. At least the Eastern Rite is driven by hundreds of years of tradition, appealing to cradles' ethnic identities).
     
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  18. datby98

    datby98 Active Member

    I wonder who now possesses the Guinness World Record for holding the most bogus doctorate degrees. :rolleyes:
     
  19. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Clearly, it's this guy, Sagi Satyanarayana with 108 "Doctorates". Ballsbridge, African Moon Unbiversity. He's probably got one from Die Alte und Freie Universität von Johann and I don't even know about it! :) He has several websites but has recently scrubbed his degree list on all I found. ... Blank.

    Or this guy, V. N. Parthiban. Claims 145 degrees. A lot are at good schools who don't teach those programs and / or have never herd of him. Fake of a different kind.
    https://www.indiatimes.com/news/india/meet-vn-parthiban-the-55-yo-chennai-professor-who-has-a-whopping-145-academic-degrees-to-his-credit-261328.html

    The other forum has a thread on these guys. Very sad individuals as I see it. Both need to get a life.
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  20. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

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