Republicans still believe Trump's election loss was the result of a rigged election

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  1. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Like my piano teacher says of classical technique, "If it were easy, everyone would do it." There's always fierce resistance to change. Change underlay the Civil War for instance, the last major war fought in English speaking North America. But though the Northern States could have simply walked away from the slave holding states in the South, they chose not to walk away but instead fought at terrible cost in blood and treasure for an ideal or perhaps a bundle of related ideals. I don't see us abandoning those ideals now.
     
  2. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    I didn't pay attention to anything after "Reporting indicates that...."
     
  3. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

  4. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    They seemed to boil down to "If one believes Maggie Haberman," but seeing corroboration now from the right makes it a lot more believable:

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/06/maggie-haberman-is-right/
     
  5. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Delusional.
     
  6. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Most medias have movie, sports interests in the china market. Their mother companies tell them what not to say. FOX is no longer controlled by conservative ownership. So we dont hear much about AZ.

    Yesterday, NV said they also want ( will have ) a forensic review. Many other states have visited AZ, agree with the process, but do not want to go public yet.

    NV said they had approx 100k inexplainable ill regularities.
     
  7. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Hopefully this will help you return to reality.

    quote:
    In a press release issued Tuesday, the secretary of state’s office said it had inventoried, labeled and evaluated all election-related complaints submitted by the state Republican Party after a rally-style event two weeks ago. The office said the assessment revealed far fewer Election Integrity Violation Reports than the party advertised in a press release, all of which were filed by the chairman of the Nevada Republican Party, Michael McDonald, with several “already under investigation by law enforcement.”

    https://thenevadaindependent.com/article/most-2020-nevada-election-integrity-cases-resolved-without-finding-of-fraud-recent-republican-document-drop-under-review
     
  8. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Nevada is an interesting State in many ways. About 3/4 of Nevadans live in Clark County so whatever Las Vegas wants, Las Vegas gets. The rest of the State is basically uninhabited and uninhabitable cold desert except for the Truckee River area with Reno and Carson City. And it's almost ALL mountains, range after range after range. There are now more Nevadans than there are New Mexicans but our population is more spread out. We have some pretty remote spots (and plenty of remote, pretty spots) but Nevada has an emptiness that is slightly terrifying.
     
  9. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    And the aliens in the area 51 :)
     
  10. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    UNDOCUMENTED aliens!:rolleyes:
     
  11. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    quote:
    The Nevada Republican Party Central Committee has voted to censure the state's Republican secretary of state after she refused to investigate unfounded allegations of voter fraud in the state.
    The resolution, passed Saturday, censures Barbara Cegavske -- Nevada's only statewide Republican elected official -- for "disregard of her oath of office by failing to investigate election fraud, her dismissive public statements regarding election integrity concerns, and her failure to ensure compliance with Nevada and federal election law, these actions being at least partially causal in November 2020 election irregularities and fraud."

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/12/politics/nevada-gop-censure-secretary-of-state-barbara-cegavske/index.html


    In April - she was censured by GOP of Nevada.

    With the expected AZ findings, many swing states will be forced to have a forensic review. Not sure how violation images ( GA and PN ) of state election laws and affidavits of fraud can be ignored.

    Remember, the state SOS has the sole responsibility to conduct an election according to state laws. Her career is at stake - of course she will attempt to refuse the review. If fraud is found - her career is done ( as a GOP ).

    Note : MI had more votes than registered voters.
     
    Last edited: Jun 10, 2021
  12. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

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  13. Vonnegut

    Vonnegut Active Member

    Wait.. did they potentially vote?! Sigh... clearly we now have intergalactic, planetary, another dimension... level of election fraud!
     
  14. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    I find this very interesting!

    The reason I find it interesting is that to me it demonstrates how detached from reality the Republican party actually is. Trump making the unfounded unsupported claim that he won the election in a landslide does not mean that there must be widespread voting irregularities. The false assertions that there were such problems are bogus nonsense. They have been debunked at every turn. Over 80 cases in the courts failed all failed to demonstrate ANYTHING of interest or any of the allegations true. Georgia and Arizona and the Nevada Secretary of state are Republican. They all said that their elections were good. Not what they wanted but valid fair and accurate. Bill Barr said the FBI investigated all alleged voting irregularities that could have impacted the results. Nothing was found.

    Yet the Republicans continue to believe stupid ridiculous lies like Michigan had more votes than registered voters!

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/12/31/fact-check-michigan-townships-had-more-registered-voters-than-votes/4097868001/

    https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-milwaukee-detroit-lansing-p/fact-check-posts-claiming-more-votes-than-residents-in-milwaukee-detroit-lansing-and-pittsburgh-give-incorrect-numbers-idUSKBN28E27W
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewalsh/2020/11/18/no-detroit-did-not-report-more-votes-than-people/?sh=6328b0ed1baa
    https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/nov/23/donald-trump/no-there-have-not-been-more-votes-people-who-voted/

    It's amazing how desperate some Republicans are to divorce themselves from reality just to believe Trump's lies. Simply amazing!
     
  15. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Minnesota not Michigan.

    Data came from affidavit that Trump's legal team used. Source for these percentages was authored by Russell Ramsland, a security consultant and former Republican congressional candidate.
    Powerline, a conservative blog, was the first to report that the affidavit cited Minnesota rather than Michigan voting jurisdictions. (A possible explanation is Michigan’s postal abbreviation is MI, while Minnesota’s is MN.) Other media sources confirmed these discrepancies.
    Minnesota Secretary of State’s Office shows that Benville Township voted overwhelmingly for Trump, not Biden.
    Minnesota #'s from the affidavit:
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    Wayne County #'s from the affidavit:

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    This was debunked as inaccurate there was no 100% in Wayne County but the source of the affidavit states that data was changed in a later time to 89% because they were caught.
     
  16. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    There is a problem within the Rep party. RHINOs and the Make America Again. MAGA is growing in the public eye. Common people are standing up and resisting. COVID and CRT are examples how the common people are resisting.

    Many conservatives think that RHINOs are not leaders but politicians.
    They know their careers are coming to an end, if the current trends continue.
    The Dems like the RHINOs and partner -both- are not good for the country long term.
    Both do not like Trump. Like Cheney. Their sweet deal might come to an end. Of course, they will fight this.

    From what I see it is going to be a fight in court first.

    I put my HOPE in God as Man's plans are just Dust. However, I want to keep my eyes open.
     
  17. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Trump and his family are grifters, and you are a mark.
     
  18. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

  19. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Credible journalists don't put BOMBSHELL in ALL CAPS in their headlines. This isn't real, it's just MAGA porn.
     
  20. Vonnegut

    Vonnegut Active Member

    You’re just like all these other media outlets... teaming up on a poor guy pretending to be a journalist... and calling him out for a history of blatant lies... Just because he has a history of false hoods, history of being banned by media outlets, and has a financial stake in deception... are you really going to call him out for preying on marks? He needs to eat to!
     
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