Received my Nations University Diploma today in the mail.

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by b4cz28, Feb 19, 2016.

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  1. farmboy

    farmboy Member

    Congratulations on your achievement. I was enrolled at Nations for awhile and have considered returning. So pleased to hear that your experience there was worthwhile.
     
  2. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    I've been asked to supply copies of my diplomas to potential employers before. It's a stupid practice--they prove nothing because they are so easy to fake.

    The university should replace a diploma damaged in shipping for free. They should also replace one lost or damaged at a later date for a small fee. (National U. replaced my MBA diploma for free.)

    I can't imagine why a copying service would refuse to copy one. But then, I can't imagine why a customer would need their help to make a copy. (One might also consider going to the public library.)
     
  3. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

    Just to push this to it's absurd limits, I just got off the phone with the Kinkos/FedEx Print Center in Glastonbury, Connecticut and they told me that they would have no problem copying a college diploma including choice of formatting, size, paper, etc. so maybe you just spoke to someone who was having a bad day.
     
  4. b4cz28

    b4cz28 New Member

    It's all going to be ok Kiz....
     
  5. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

    Thanks b4. I feel better now.:thanks:
     
  6. major56

    major56 Active Member

    And I spoke in person (with a diploma in hand), with a local Kinkos (FedEx Office) and Kwik Kopy (Texas) … both locations stated they (employees) will not make replication photocopies of diplomas or negotiable material. And maybe you spoke by phone with someone who isn’t aware of possible legal ramifications (e.g., university copyrighted images (trademark, service mark or logo) or other protected material)), organization guidelines—who knows? Of course that wouldn’t prevent the customer from doing such (photocopying)—would it? Just because a potential breach of copyright in copy shops may exist (whether intentional or unintentional) and is likely to be expected and/or tolerated … doesn’t in effect make such action automatically lawful or ethical.

    I still consider my thoughts about possible counterfeiting of an official document as a consideration … no matter yours or my personal opinion as to whether or not such could be conceivably a legality /illegality issue or merely disregarded as absurdity. Yet to avoid the possibility as to an illegality issue at all—I’d simply apply for a replacement diploma from the issuing postsecondary institution.

    Again, I’m not an attorney nor qualified in copyright laws—only offered as a subjective observation re the consideration of conceivable consequences…

    Note: Your original response to the OP gave the impression to me as somewhat encouraging and dismissive of the prospect of counterfeiting (...virtually indistinguishable from the original) a university diploma document. Just saying…
     
  7. Filmmaker2Be

    Filmmaker2Be Active Member

    Congratulations! I just started working on my M.T.S. with them.
     
  8. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Not that it's really important, but they might charge. Years ago, a college charged me $30, refusing to take responsibility for the mailman who scrunched their plainly-marked "do not bend, etc." envelope. And naturally, I got nowhere with the post office. After that, I started requesting cardboard packaging.

    In this case, a customer might. What's needed is not a photocopy, but a scan - jpg bmp or other digital file, from which the crease can be edited out. Yes, a lot of people have scanners - even I do (nice Canon - a gift), but not everyone does.

    J.
     
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  9. expat_eric

    expat_eric New Member

    Wow. I never imagined that it could be a problem to make a copy of your degree. I move around internationally every couple years and every time I move, I have supply original and copies of my degrees and transcripts. Most countries require them just to get the residence permit and work permit. I bet my company HR has copies of my degree siting in file cabinets in several countries. I guess I can sort of understand why a print shop might have an issue. If they make a copy that gets used for identity theft or forgery I guess they might get sued. It seems pretty far fetched but in this litigation happy world a firm must do what they have to do to protect themselves.
     
  10. b4cz28

    b4cz28 New Member

    Only I can start a thread that gets this crazy lol. I was once kicked out of a copy store for trying to make a color copy of my DL. Well I was kicked out for the arguing, wrongly of course. I have officially been kicked out of three places. Houston Livestock Show and Rodeo, Sea World and The Copy Shop.
     
  11. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

    Yes, that's the way I feel. Encouraging and dismissive in this regard. I think it's a silly waste of time and energy to worry about such things.
     
  12. major56

    major56 Active Member

    Your prerogative…
     
  13. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

    of course it is
     
  14. major56

    major56 Active Member

    Gosh … what astuteness.

    Cheers...
     
  15. Maxwell_Smart

    Maxwell_Smart Active Member

    I was looking through recently, and yeah, it is quite a bit more than one would expect for this, especially at the undergrad level. Holy cow.

    But hey, you know, a degree shouldn't be easy to breeze through and I bet if more schools required students to actually demonstrate that they know the material and not just be good at memorizing things for an exam, we might have more competent people in the workforce than the hordes of degree-holders who can't even operate a photocopier... or SPELL the word photocopier for that matter.

    Anyway, congratulations b4cz28.
     
  16. owenasher85

    owenasher85 member

    I know there are sites out there that make an entire business off of fake diplomas. lol
     
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  17. cacoleman1983

    cacoleman1983 Member

    I graduated with a MRS (Masters of Religious Studies) degree from Nations University in 2013. They have changed the degree to a MTS (Master of Theological Studies) since they got accredited in 2015. Those who have earned a Master of Religious studies degree in 2012 and after can now earn an accredited MTS (Master of Theological Studies) degree with just taking six additional courses (18 hours). I do not list an accredited degree on my resume or any public domain but was considering doing the six additional courses for the MTS. I already have a Masters and a graduate certificate from a regionally accredited school and have no intention of going into any type of ministry or any other career where I would need the MTS.

    Do you all think I should complete the additional courses for MTS just so I can have my unaccredited MRS upgraded to an accredited MTS?
     
  18. RAM PhD

    RAM PhD Member


    Given the cost of a degree from NU, I would absolutely complete the additional hours to obtain the accredited MTS. Personally, I would never want any connection with an unaccredited degree.
     
  19. farmboy

    farmboy Member

    One never knows what the future holds. If it was me, at that cost, I would most definitely do the 6 courses.
     
  20. Lagu88

    Lagu88 Member

    congratulations!!! Yup, at rare times, my diploma or cert also been folded before during delivery.
     

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