Penn State Scandal: Should Joe Paterno face charges too?

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  1. friendorfoe

    friendorfoe Active Member

    A unique thing about community colleges, at least here in North Texas is that the students do not actually reside on campus. Maybe that's why I view campus police as an "investigating authority" as odd, because my frame of reference is off. For a school like UT or North Texas where you have thousands of resident students living on campus, it makes perfect sense.
     
  2. bazonkers

    bazonkers New Member

    Penn State University (at their main campus) has 35,000 students. Some live off campus in the nearby town of State College but many live in the dorms. They have so many students that reside there, they have their own zip code, city name (University Park), EMT/Ambulance crews, Police Department, etc. They also have a nuclear reactor and a special detachment of NCIS agents assigned to Penn State due to several ongoing naval weapons projects. It's like a mini-city so having the campus police investigate rapes isn't all that odd.
     
  3. bazonkers

    bazonkers New Member

    Just found this in an article: "Penn State has 46 full-time armed officers, compared to 65 in surrounding State College."
     
  4. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    All of the large campus PD's in the Boston area (B.U., B.C., Harvard, Northeastern) have full-time detectives, but any major crimes are investigated by the DA's office by statute. B&E's, larcenies, and robberies are investigated by the campus PD, which might ask for assistance from the local PD. Additionally, all campus officers hold commissions as deputy sheriffs in Suffolk (Boston) and Middlesex (Cambridge) counties, giving them police powers off-campus.

    Most of them book their prisoners at the local police precinct, although I believe Boston University has their own cellblock (they are the premier campus PD in the Boston area). In any case, they're responsible for the arrest, transport, and prosecution of their arrests.
     
  5. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

  6. friendorfoe

    friendorfoe Active Member

  7. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    Here is what gets me. Paterno is supposed to be receiving a $500,000k a year pension from Penn State. As a union public worker myself, I think these types of huge retirement payouts need to be capped and controlled. Friggin crazy.

    I think I just threw up a little bit in my mouth! :smile:

    Abner :smile:
     
  8. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    In spite of the almost daily news stories railing about the pensions of police officers in Massachusetts, they aren't even in the same galaxy as the pensions handed out to UMass employees, including a $208,000 annual kiss in the mail that former UMass President Billy Bulger (brother of serial killer Whitey Bulger) gets;

    SJC allows Bulger pension - The Boston Globe
     
  9. friendorfoe

    friendorfoe Active Member

    Same in Texas, taxpayer funded pensions from retired university staff staggers the imagination, it's way, way more handsome than what your average wage earner could ever hope to get.
     
  10. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    Yeah, the media always reports some crazy retirements, when in fact the average rank and file worker gets a small pension. The (media) never seem to post the contrasting retirements between a State CEO and a rank and file employee, for example. They also don't mention government workers pay into their retirements as well.

    Abner
     
  11. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    That's our problem out her in Cali. These people may be academics, but there is no reason to pay them over the top salaries and retirements. That is being looked at VERY carefully by our Governor.

    Abner
     
  12. friendorfoe

    friendorfoe Active Member

    And why shouldn't they? Isn't that usually how the private sector does it? I know if I don't contribute I don't get the employer match...so I have to pay in.
     
  13. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    I am not saying they shouldn't. I am saying the media makes it sound like government workers get these huge retirement payments while not make any contributions. My other point is concur with Bruce on the fact that the average rank and file employee pensions are tiny compared to other classifications.

    Have a good one!

    Abner :smile:
     
  14. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

  15. friendorfoe

    friendorfoe Active Member

    Gotcha'... I will say that federal government pensions seem to be at the upper end of the food chain as well, so I guess when you count county, city, state and federal employees some are going to be more reasonable while others will push the bell curve higher.
     
  16. Jonathan Whatley

    Jonathan Whatley Well-Known Member

    But then, there are so many public sector workers who could earn higher wages in the private sector, but choose their public sector jobs in part because of relatively better pension benefits, and/or fringe benefits, and/or job security. Chip away at these latter things and we shouldn't be surprised if we have to bid up salaries, or lose good employees.
     
  17. ITJD

    ITJD Active Member

  18. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    Yeah! Don't they know that it's a fruit?
     
  19. ITJD

    ITJD Active Member

    ..or at least that Sandusky is..
     
  20. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    That's why I took the job I have....great benefits and a solid pension system.
     

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