Oregon starts labelling "diploma mills"

Discussion in 'Accreditation Discussions (RA, DETC, state approva' started by [email protected], Mar 2, 2004.

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  1. ctrieble

    ctrieble member

    Diploma Mills

    You guys are supposed to hold Doctorates????


    Amazing.........
     
  2. ctrieble

    ctrieble member

    Diploma Mills

    You guys are supposed to hold Doctorates????


    Amazing.........
     
  3. ctrieble

    ctrieble member

    Diploma Mills

    You guys are supposed to hold Doctorates????


    Amazing.........
     
  4. ctrieble

    ctrieble member

    Doctorates

    I am amazed that some of you morons claim to have Doctorates...


    From St. Regis or Concordia????
     
  5. ctrieble

    ctrieble member

    Doctorates

    I am amazed that some of you morons claim to have Doctorates...


    From St. Regis or Concordia????
     
  6. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    How nice. A repetitive troll.
     
  7. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member Staff Member

    Maybe he was trying to raise his average posts per day.
     
  8. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Okay, I'll bite. What are some of the notable inaccuracies in the ODA list?
     
  9. DaveHayden

    DaveHayden New Member

    I thought he/she just didn't know how to use a mouse button! :)
     
  10. Anthony Pina

    Anthony Pina Active Member

    Re: Diploma Mills

    Yes, several have doctorates from accredited instituions, others have doctorates from unaccredited institutions. I am one of the former.
     
  11. rolen

    rolen Guest

    Don't you think he's a good candidate for a distance learning class 001 - "a computer mouse is not an animal - learn how to use it without fighting it":D
     
  12. Anthony Pina

    Anthony Pina Active Member

    Re: Re: Diploma Mills

    That's "institutions" not "instituions" (I wish that this forum software had a spell checker)
     
  13. russ

    russ New Member

    Although I certainly do not approve of the actions of the ODA nor, as a Oregon resident and taxpayer, appreciate any Oregon tax dollars being used to fund this concept I do agree with this definition of a degree mill. It is not the definition used here by many individuals on this site who tend to use the term for any unaccredited school but, in my opinion, it is a reasonable definition.
     
  14. DaveHayden

    DaveHayden New Member

    LOL,

    Does ANYONE here consider all unacredited schools degree mills. NO. Just another strawman by lonely ol' "russ". LOL. Well he is good for a few laughs anyway.
     
  15. jerryclick

    jerryclick New Member

    ...and my bulldog has a Ph.D. from a school that is NOT on the ODA 'Bad Guy' list.:D (He's also an ordained minister)
     
  16. russ

    russ New Member

    Hi Dave,

    You are wrong (even if you are a fellow Oregonian). How many people here consider KWU to be a "diploma mill?" Just about everyone (other than myself). The ODA's definition does not fit Kennedy Western University since they are just an unaccredited university, not a diploma mill. In fact, as you know, the ODA had to refrain from calling KWU a diploma mill based on a lawsuit filed by KWU against ODA. In addition, the ODA was required to have defamation training on top of that.

    Therefore, it is quite clear that people on this site refer to unaccredited schools as diploma mills even if they do not meet the ODA definition.
     
  17. DaveHayden

    DaveHayden New Member

    Ah Russ

    There you go again. From the definition YOU accept as accurate, "(c) Issues degrees using more than 50 percent of required credits based on the student's life experience or portfolio." KWU only requires 5 classes instead of the normal 40 classes for a BA/BS. Even those five are questionable when compared to real university level classes. So, by your own standards, KWU is in fact a degree mill. The only reason the ODA settled was because of old Hardly Matters, I mean Hardy Meyers. The guy most in the state thinks is a bit of a joke.
     
  18. russ

    russ New Member

    Sorry Dave,

    I cannot verify that you only need five classes to graduate from KWU. If you can refer me to a site that indicates that, I would be happy to take a look. Thanks.
     
  19. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    The diploma mill known as Kennedy-Western University doesn't publish requirements for their bogus degrees. Reasonable people would consider this another strong indicator that KWU is a diploma mill.

    The 5 classes is the most common figure given by victims that have been ripped off by KWU. There have been reports that range between 4 and 7 but most victims seem to need to take 5 classes.
     
  20. DaveHayden

    DaveHayden New Member

    Yep that is the thing about frauds like KWU. They are very slippery and slimy. Tell you what "Russ", find me one, repeat ONE, real KWU graduate who has put in 40 classes or something close and I will retract all the things said about the fraud known as KWU.
     

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