Nominee for Comptroller of Currency misrepresented his degree

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  1. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Already did, thanks.

    J.
     
  2. b4cz28

    b4cz28 Active Member


    You are stretching a bit, if a program is administered by University of Toronto then how would you be wrong to be say you attended the University? The program said it was at Dartmouth...the biggest thing people are failing to see is that the fake news lied and is claiming that he earned a degree. He never did, yet that's what is being reported as this story has been picked up.
     
  3. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    If I rent a lecture hall at Dartmouth University and run a 2 week course then I can say that the course is "at Dartmouth" in the sense that Dartmouth is the location of the course. However, it is not "at Dartmouth" in the sense that Dartmouth has no control of the curriculum or teaching of the course. That distinction seems pretty basic.
     
  4. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    I'm not stretching at all. Tuition was paid to the Credit Institute, not U. of Toronto. Along the way, I received awards - about four IIRC - from the Institute and/or its member companies, not U. of T., presented at the local chapter of the Credit Institute. Upon graduation, I received a diploma - again from the Credit Institute - no mention of University of Toronto on it - none whatsoever. U. of Toronto had no control over the curriculum or teaching of the course. And the annual exams were written at a local High School in evenings - not at U. of T.

    So how is this attendance at University of Toronto? As Kizmet said re: Dartmouth (above) "The distinction is pretty basic."

    J.
     
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  5. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    This whole thing somehow puts me in mind of "Trump University." Strange...

    J.
     
  6. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    I don't see why it would. It may not be Dartmouth, but the organization that does this training is legitimate and has offered it for many years.
     
  7. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Yes, the training and the org. are legit, Steve. But the faux-Dartmouth aspect from a grad is not so great (to me, anyway). The organization itself is blameless and above suspicion. The defunct Trump school --- well, I guess I just succumbed to the temptation to inject it into the discussion.

    J.
     
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  8. b4cz28

    b4cz28 Active Member

    You are trying to make this fit your narrative. It won't, he did nothing wrong. In your first little analogy you make the claim the program was administered by UT. If it was administrated and taught by them, were you not attending UT? or did you not mean to word it that way?
     
  9. John Bear

    John Bear Senior Member

    The poster child for this sort of frimfrummery is the dreadful Warnborough College, which rented a vacant small building from Oxford University, and immediately began advertising, "Come to Oxford! Come to Warnborough College." This paragraph, from their literature, wins my prize for the single most misleading school prose ever:

    "Warnborough College, Oxford, is steeped in tradition. The college’s historic campus sits on Boars Hill with an imposing view overlooking Oxford’s dreaming spires. It is here on Warnborough’s terraced lawns that some of this century’s great innovators have achieved great thoughts. Mahatma Gandhi, Bertrand Russell, Albert Einstein, Madame Curie, Bernard Shaw, H. G. Wells, Gilbert Murray, and many others have all walked the halls and found a place of inspiration amongst Warnborough’s 13-acre woodland campus."

    John Bear
    Archivist
     
  10. heirophant

    heirophant Well-Known Member

    It appears that recent Comptrollers had bachelors degrees in sometimes unrelated subjects along with law degrees.

    https://www.occ.gov/about/who-we-are/leadership/past-comptrollers/index-past-comptrollers.html

    Given that the Comptroller has a large technical staff including legal counsel, the Comptroller position most likely calls for experience running an organization. So in that regard, it's probably relevant that Mr. Otting is a former bank executive and CEO.

    https://www.occ.gov/about/who-we-are/leadership/index-leadership.html
     
  11. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    This is why I list the MOOC certificates on my resume under "Other Training and Education", not "Education", and the certificates have the school names clearly printed on them.
     
  12. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Try reading for comprehension next time. I never said it was taught by them. In the words of Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III, that would have been "an appalling and detestable lie."

    I guess you didn't notice - what I did say was this:

    That clear enough?

    J.
     
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  13. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Yep. I think that's exactly what we're dealing with here. Dr. Bear, do you happen to know the penalty for frimfrummery these days?

    J.
     
  14. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    I think the penalty in the Washington DC jurisdiction is community service. Otherwise known as having an appointed position in the Federal government.
     
  15. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Oh -- then I guess the correct penalty will likely be imposed. I'd prefer the universal "$50 and time served." (Judge Harry Stone, Night Court, 1984-1992.)

    J.
     
  16. John Bear

    John Bear Senior Member

    As it happens, I probably do. The first comic book I can remember came out during WW2. In this book, Hitler was captured and his sentence was to be given an eternal life serum, and placed in a space ship which was fired into the cosmos, with his own speeches blaring loudly, unstoppably, eternally. Something like that, I believe, depending on how much frim and how much frum.
     
  17. b4cz28

    b4cz28 Active Member

    You are acting crazy mate. I think if you say administered most people would think that the university provided the staff to carry out a course. Clam down I get worried around the anti-Trump people....you all are so hostile.
     
  18. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    You don't have a PhD in Psychology, nor are you licensed. However, you may think what you want. And say any foolish thing that comes into your head.

    Like Kim Jong-Un, you mean? Yeah, he worries me too, sometimes. But Dennis Rodman will save the day, I'm sure.

    J.
     
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  19. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    Most people on the planet are either spiritually dead or are spiritually asleep. Those who are not saved are spiritually dead and most of those who are saved are spiritually asleep. First and foremost, there is an ongoing raging spiritual battle all around us (Eph. 6:10-20).
     
  20. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    No need for snark. By saying "administered" you really were being a bit unclear.
     

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