New Law School Auctioning Tuition?

""P.S. - I know that there is absolutely no chance that you are a practicing attorney. A few spelling or grammar errors here and there are understandable, but anyone who does not know the difference between "your" (a possesive pronoun) and "you're" (a contraction) could not have the skills to pass the California bar. This is something that you have done countless times""


YOU HAVE MANY SPELLING ERRORS.....MANY AND I AM NOT GOING TO COPY AND PASTE THEM ALL.

YOU ARE SO WRONG ITS NOW PATHETIC, I HAVE A GREAT 1 MAN PRACTICE 5 HOUSES DOWN FROM THE GOLF GREEN ITSELF AS MOST OF MY WORK IS DONE OUT OF MY HOME OFFICE, SOMETIMES I GO DOWNTOWN.

I SPEND 4 YEARS GETTING A J.D. AND 2 YEARS GETTING AN LL.M.

I RECEIVED AN "A' IN LEGAL WRITING FROM AN ABA LAW SCHOOL AND ACTUALLY THE BAR ESSAYS WERE THE EASY PART FOR ME.

MULTI-CHOICE TOOK LONGER TO PRACTICE FOR.

DUDE, I GOT MORE FRIENDS AT THE STATE BAR OF CALIFORNIA THEN YOU PROBABLY KNOW LAWYERS, BUT ONE FRIEND HIGH ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT THE CHANGES THAT ARE COMING.

Again we could hunt and copy and paste all of your errors, mispells, etc. but it is really so childish and shouldnt you be studying law right now? lol for me I am done with law school!

 

You are correct, I am not perfect and make frequent errors in my writing. We are in complete agreement. The DIFFERENCE, however, is that I don't strut around in my posts bragging about how great I am or telling the world how much I know... You seem to be in complete disbelief that anyone could challenge you and appear shocked when anyone "attacks" you after your rants and name calling.

When I have exposed discrepancies in your statements, you ignore the facts and use personal insults as a way of changing the subject. This is very good evidence of poor advocacy, giving further credit to my claims that you have never passed the California bar exam. As you have never previously claimed to be an attorney (up until your last post), only a law school graduate, your most recent post only serves to show a lack of consistancy (I am aware that you have never claimed to have failed the bar exam either, but I think most would agree that if you really had passed it you would have used this credential to shove in others' faces long ago). Whatever happened to your thriving real estate business? Let me guess it is a real estate/law office? Right?

Unless you were somehow personally effected by this situation in California, someone with the credentials you claim would be too busy working and making money to waste time in a internet discussion board discussing this topic (which is why I believe that you were a former Saratoga student who got screwed by Michael Narkin).

Most users on this form have shown the maturity (that I obviously lack) to refrain from engaging you. I guess I just can't help having some fun here.

I just can't understand how someone can be so angry at the world, unless there is an underlying cause.

Back to the main subject of discussion: If I were a student considering a DL school in California, depending on my financial circumstances, I would either choose a school with the highest bar passage percentage (schools such as Concord, Taft, Oak Brook, and NWCU would be included in this category) or go with the cheapest option (West Coast, National's ebay deal, or possibly NWCU here). I would NOT choose National if I did not have a deal on tuition, however.

 

The personal attacks are coming from you!

"Unless you were somehow personally effected by this situation in California, someone with the credentials you claim would be too busy working and making money to waste time in a internet discussion board discussing this topic (which is why I believe that you were a former Saratoga student who got screwed by Michael Narkin)."

I am NOT a former Saratoga student, I have posted that several times!! Get it?

I am just a lawyer disgusted with the lack of rules and regulations regarding law schools in California but will not
waste further time with you, since you arent in a law program
that qualifies you to be a lawyer in California!

 

Yes. Now they are. Just as others have previously said, I believe you to be a fraud. I MAY be wrong... it is possible... something just doesn't pass the smell test here though.

 

I get your claims, that's right. As I have shown several times before your writings are full of discrepancies.

Just ONE example:

"I am a graduate of an ABA law school and prior to that a State Bar Accredited Law School, I refused to take the bait
and name the law schools as this will take away the focus on
1 man law schools operations and my quest here in California
to shut them down!"

Versus

"I went to Lincoln Law School in San Jose a state bar accredited law school I think around since 1926, then finished last 2 semesters elsewhere because I had a family issue.

What is your problem where I went to law school?

I have a J.D. degree and an LL.M degree and YOU dont!"

This was only revealed after I had discovered your claim to have been a straight correspondence graduate on another forum... You have to admit that things don't add up here.

 

I am a lawyer that is a fact! I am a Real Estate Broker, that is a fact. I live in California, that is a fact and I am qualified to discuss the rules of admission and law schools in California, you are NOT!

I passed the bar on my first attempt!

For the life of me I can not understand why you even post here regarding correspondence law schools.

You are not a correspondence law student, you never have been one, you are not or never have been in a California Bar Qualifying program, you are not admitted to practice anywhere, why do you even bother? lol

Why do you discuss correspondence law schools? why?

your NOT qualified!

 

Because YOUR (shamelessly used to mock you) so much fun and YOUR (Darn it, I did it again) never going to learn the difference between "your" and "you're."

Someday you're going to have to learn that there is the ability to disagree without being disagreeable (a trait which would help you tremendously).

NOTE TO ALL OTHER USERS: I am sorry here. I just can't help myself.

 

Dude, I am trying to help California law students, since your not qualified in this area you should leave these posts regarding California law schools.

All you have to offer is unqualified opinions, that has been exposed, please leave the facts of California law schools to someone like me and others who are qualified to do so.

This forum is to help potential law students not for your silly posts!

 

Does everyone have their current rabies shots?

YOUR (you'll notice you did it again in this post) helping California law students by personally insulting someone who took a risk on a new school for $3000?

I have never claimed to have any qualifcations related to California law schools.

This forum is NOT to help potential law students, but rather to discuss distance learning (something that I am as qualified as the next person to speak my mind).

 

Dude, your an idiot.

Your not qualified to discuss distance learning law schools in California!

 

An idiot? Yes, you're probably right... It appears that attempting to engage you in debate is rather pointless (beyond pure entertainment value).

This reminds me of my high school speech class. Part of the curriculum required students to debate different topics in front of the entire class. One of the most important lessons learned was that that the first person to resort to personal insults and name calling was usually (if not always) declared the loser.

I am almost in disbelief that you continue still are unable to correctly distinguish between "your" and "you're" (done twice in the last post). I am guessing that you probably have a friend who works for Webster's Dictionary who has given you "inside information" on the big changes coming to the English language? Therefore "YOUR" just getting a head start on things?

 

How much was your W-2 or 1099 last year?

Mine was over $200,000.

Oh that is right your in some NON BAR QUALIFYING distance learning law program. LOL

 

I am back, just not checking in often. Sent my $3.1K in 11 days ago. Completed my app and ordered my transcripts today. If admitted as expected, I can start in October.

Note a few of the correspondence schools have bar passage rates of their graduates (of course) that rival or exceed the CA-accredited, non-ABA B&M schools. Oak Brook, Concord, Taft and NWCU may be in this category.

The reason the correspondence schools have single-digit graduation rates is simple. They have low barriers to entry, as do the University of London and other non-U.S. law programs.

I am not sure what the issue here is. I am confident that if I spend 7,500 or so hours doing course work and studying during the next five years I can graduate and pass the bar. If I only spend 4,000 or so hours, the legal minimum, my chances are marginal, at best. Below that I will fail.

Correspondence law schools offer a valuable service to non-traditional students who have the time to do the coursework and study but can't commit to taking courses during day or evening hours. Except for the weekend programs at Cooley and possibly some unofficial six-year programs, there are no other options for non-traditional students like me at ABA schools.

But if you think about it, being ready and able to do thousands of hours of study but not being able to show up for night school reflects the aspirations of a small part of the college-educated population interested in studing law. So a lot of folks who enter correspondence school are not willing to commit the time. They are quickly weeded out by the schools and/or the Baby Bar.

The thing is here at degreeinfo, we are the folks who spend the time in non-traditional educational environments and study ourselves silly. I would think there would be more sympathy here for non-classroom instruction, especially when it is relatively inexpensive and easily monitored (through the CA Bar statistics.)

There is also the potential, far in the future, of combining distance learning and classroom education in single J.D. program. This is currently prohibited by the ABA, but it will inevitably happen sometime this century, although perhaps not in my lifetime.

P.S. My day job salary reflects an hourly wage of $45 an hour. So I am looking at an investment of time that in theory exceeds $300,000. Why don't I just spend the $120K on a B&M law school. Well, two reasons. I don't want to spend that much more, if I can avoid it. Also, I like spending time with my wife and kids. I don't want say goodbye to my little guys and not see them when they are teenagers. Oh, and I travel a lot and it is hard to commit to four-times-a-week evening classes.

 

Just out of curiosity, how did you arrive at the 7500 hour figure and why would a "mere" 4000 hours provide only marginal chances of passing the Bar exam? Anyways, good luck in law school!

 

Its 864 hours per year x 4 years is 3,456 total hours.

All you do is sign a picture of paper saying you completed 864 hours over a 48-50 week perid each year. They dont break the hours down to less then that.

You brief cases, do alot of essay and multi-choice at mid-terms, and finals and sign document that you did 864 years.

No biggie, I did it! for 2 semester, They arent asking you to punch a time clock,!

Big thing is will they be around in 2010 for you to get a diploma!

 

Nope, you didn't get it that time either, please try again. It is "you're" and not "your."

"Your" (intentionally used incorrectly) right though, UOL LLB is technically not a bar qualifying program. Though it is my intention to use it to help me get bar qualified in my home state. For most Americans though, even though it is very prestigious, it is not a very good option.

 

Thanks for the update cpaq. I am quite interested in your endeavor and am glad that someone was able to make use of my ebay find. You certainly have the right attitude about it. This is going to be a huge committment on your part, but at least you were able to save some money (if everything works out). Please continue to keep us posted.

 

"UOL LLB is technically not a bar qualifying program. "

So your a wannabe lawyer, dude, and you didnt even have enough guts or brains to go to a law school and get a law degree that would be bar qualifying. Your the one that has no room to talk or even give opinions on distance law schools AT ALL!

You dont nothing anything about the subject and even less about the law or bar admissions in California.

 

The UOL LLB is not intended to make a student eligible for a U.S. state bar exam. It is a qualifying law degree to put a student on the road to being a barrister or solicitor in the United Kingdom. I am hoping to slide in through a loophole and gain the ability to practice in my home state.

As others on this board already know, I live 1500 miles from the nearest law school. Sure, I could move and go to school for a few years, but I'd really prefer not, if I have the choice. I have to admit that I've given it some thought recently. I'm really too busy studying for my engineering license (I sit for the exam in October) to waste too much time with ideas such as these until I accomplish the goal at hand.

Maybe my opinion doesn't matter on these topics, we'll let others decide for themselves. The only thing I am sure of though, is that you are not the person you claim to be.

P.S. - "Your" (intentionally incorrect) still using "your" and "you're" incorrectly. You did it twice in the most recent post. Keep trying buddy, you'll get it!

 

Oh yes I am who I say I am.

I am a lawyer and a real estate broker in California.

My J.D. is from a California law school and my LL.M is from an ABA law school, St.Thomas University School of Law in Miami.

Dude, your a freakin little game player and from what I could see with that useless non bar qualifying law degree your studying for a loser too!