New Law School Auctioning Tuition?

A little game player? Useless degree? All probably correct. All in all it is a longshot at best. After I obtain my engineering license I'll have to decide how I want to proceed with my career. I've always had a strong interest in getting involved with patent law. It is clear though that if I am completely serious about practicing law, at some point, I should just "bite the bullet" and go to an ABA school. I'll keep you posted.

P.S. - You absolutely HAVE to be doing the whole "your" thing on purpose (two more times in the last post)... Is there ANY possible way we can teach you this? Maybe... just MAYBE... my Webster's Dictionary theory was correct??? Do tell... PLEASE?

 

YIPPEE! I think Steve F. and another person are meeting at the flagpole at 3:00pm. If you two join, we might get a "rumble" going.

Plus, Miss M. said she'll leave the lollipops and push-pops out for everyone.

 

Yaaaaa...... Great idea!

 

Dude,

I just have to break my self-imposed exile from this board to counsel you to lighten up. Both on this board and on the net in general. You have been going on in gangbusters, and it is unprofessional.

First, I say this as someone who holds an ABA top-tier JD and a top-20 LLM from an ABA school, having graduated 1st in my class. I teach at a law school. And I am a member of the bar, actually having practiced.

That said, this caustic behavior does not serve to further discussions regarding DISTANCE LEARNING.

Hooray! You have an unaccredited degree that allowed you to take and pass the CAL Bar (no minor feat!).
And a 2d or 3d-tier LLM. (Having practiced in Miami, I am quite familiar with St. Thomas, thank, you). But not a cause to brow-beat someone else.

So, lighten up. IF (a big if) you are truly a professional, act accordingly. Right now, you sound like a 15 year-old.

 

Well said.

 

Dude,

"""I just have to break my self-imposed exile from this board to counsel you to lighten up. Both on this board and on the net in general. You have been going on in gangbusters, and it is unprofessional.

First, I say this as someone who holds an ABA top-tier JD and a top-20 LLM from an ABA school, having graduated 1st in my class. I teach at a law school. And I am a member of the bar, actually having practiced.

That said, this caustic behavior does not serve to further discussions regarding DISTANCE LEARNING.

Hooray! You have an unaccredited degree that allowed you to take and pass the CAL Bar (no minor feat!).
And a 2d or 3d-tier LLM. (Having practiced in Miami, I am quite familiar with St. Thomas, thank, you). But not a cause to brow-beat someone else.

So, lighten up. IF (a big if) you are truly a professional, act accordingly. Right now, you sound like a 15 year-old.""

NUMBNUTS THE PERSON THAT NEEDS TO LIGTHEN UP IS DUDE, HE
NEITHER A BAR QUALIFYING LAW DEGREE, NOR GOING TO A LAW SCHOOL THAT WILL QUALIFY HIM FOR THE BAR AND HE IS CONSTANTLY ON HERE RAGGING AN UNIFORMED OPINION.

Who cares what tier my ABA law school is, I got the degree and an excellent 1 man operation practice, I am happy all the way to the bank with my deposits!

I am qualifed to talk about california law schools and california admissions, DUDE is not qualified that is the point, counselor, you might want to correct your mis-direction.

 

You never passed the bar, in California or anywhere else.

 

You never passed the bar, in California or anywhere else.


__________________
Robb
A.S. Norwalk Community College
B.G.S. University of Connecticut
M.B.A. Baker College (in progress)

I did pass the bar, again, I am a lawyer in California and a Real Estate Broker in California, sorry too disappoint all of you!

I went to a State Bar Accredited law school, Lincoln Law School of San Jose and then transferred and got J.D. at another California law school and then got a LL.M. at an ABA law school. Both degrees were obtained with 3.0 GPA despite the fact I was working full time!

Dont be jealous, all of you can do the same, you might not like my messages about correspondence law schools, the changes coming from the State Bar of California, my dislike of non-bar J.D. degrees, but I am who I say I am, and you all can say I am not but it doesnt change the facts at all!

P.S. I work for myself and dont have too take crap from anyone, been working for my self since 1998.

 

Truth be told, I was just cheering for a good old school fight where someone screams "uncle" and some hair is pulled. No slight to you, I just remembered your name since you are one of the few folks who identifies their entire name (or the name you use) as opposed to a "nick".

On a side note, while I am sure this thread has lost it's distance learning value, JDLLM's posts are fun to read, as are the responses. It's become a quasi-therapy for many of us to respond to them since this appears to be JD's theme for any recent posts referring to law schools.

It, honestly, makes me fondly remember third grade, Miss Sparks and the silly first-fights we all got into over crayons and tether-ball. Makes me happy I am not as senile as I thought.

 

When I get my non-bar JD you'll have to call me "counselor".

P.S. I think you work for yourself because no one else can stand you.

 

"When I get my non-bar JD you'll have to call me "counselor".

P.S. I think you work for yourself because no one else can stand you.

A NON-BAR J.D. DEGREE IS USELESS, COMPLETELY WORTHLESS.

SUCH A NON-BAR "DEGREE" IS NOT REALLY A LAW DEGREE!

IT IS A PROFESSIONAL DEGREE, A PROFESSIONAL DEGREE MEANS THE DEGREE QUALIFIES ONE TO PRACTICE THE PROFESSION, A NON-BAR J.D. DEGREE HAS NO UTILITY WHATSOEVER!

I DO NOT CALL ANYONE, "COUNSELOR" THAT IS NOT ADMITTED TO THE BAR! AND NO OTHER LAWYER EVER WILL CALL YOU THAT EITHER1

I work for myself because I am smart and fully capable of performing without the guidance or supervision of anyone!

 

Settle down, silly. I'm just teasing.

I've said it before, I think that schools should consider offering non-bar qualifying legal studies, but under a different name (e.g. Master of Legal Studies or Postgraduate Diploma in Legal Studies, or something). Non-bar JDs can't be worthless. They are programs in law studies, some from accredited schools like Concord and Taft. There is value there, even if it's accademic and not professional.

 

"Non-bar JDs can't be worthless. They are programs in law studies, some from accredited schools like Concord and Taft. There is value there, even if it's accademic and not professional."

IF YOU TELL SOMEONE OR A POTENTIAL EMPLOYER WHO ASKS ABOUT YOUR DEGREE AND KNOWS IT IS NOT FROM AN ABA LAW SCHOOL OR A STATE-BAR ACCREDITED LAW SCHOOL THAT YOUR J.D. DEGREE IS NON-BAR THEY WILL CONSIDER SUCH A DEGREE, NOT REAL!


THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A "PROFESSIONAL DEGREE" THAT DOES NOT ALLOW ONE TO PRACTICE THE PROFESSION.

EVER HEARD OF A NON-MEDICINE M.D. DEGREE OR NON-DENTISTRY DD.S DEGREE, LOL???????

Sorry dont waste your money on a "law degree" that doesnt qualify you to practice law, once you tell people your "law degree" doesnt qualify you to practice law, you will be laughed at and not taken serious!

 

You quoted what I said, but I don't think you read it. I conceded that the value of the programs was accademic, not professional.

By the way, there are life-science accademic programs at many universities. You might consider those non-licensing medical programs.

 

The education represented by a non-bar J.D. obviously isn't worthless. I suppose that it might be possible to attain something comparable through independent study or something, but some students might value the structure and feed-back provided by a program.

I'm less sure about the value of the degree itself. I do think that law degrees have some value for non-attorneys. For example, when I was a philosophy student our department periodically offered several courses on the philosophy of law. The professor who typically taught them had both a Ph.D. and a J.D. I don't recall where the J.D. was earned or whether the gentleman was a member of the bar. But I do know that he didn't practice law.

Law degrees certainly have utility for legislators who are tasked with writing the laws.

Then why try to supervise the people on this board?

I think that decisions about which law program a prospective student applies to are ultimately the student's. And by definition, students aren't attorneys. So it doesn't make sense to insist that non-attorneys must have no opinions on these matters. In the last analysis, their opinions are the opinions that count.

You have a valuable point of view and conceivably you might even be correct. But all you can hope to be here on Degreeinfo is a counselor, an advocate for whatever you believe is the truth.

Turning disagreements into ego battles only gets people's backs up and insures that they won't humiliate themselves by agreeing with you. Alienating the people you hope to convince is not effective advocacy.

 

So true.

A lawyer wouldn't walk into a courtroom and insult the judge/jury before advocating for their client....if they did, they wouldn't be in practice for very long.

 

"You quoted what I said, but I don't think you read it. I conceded that the value of the programs was accademic, not professional"

Such a non-bar degree is NOT academic, since no University will accept it as an academic degree, IT HAS NO VALUE UNLESS IT QAULIFIES THE HOLDER TO PRACTICE LAW

 

They certainly are academic degrees, regardless of your opinion to the contrary:

Definitions of academic degree :

an award conferred by a college or university signifying that the recipient has satisfactorily completed a course of study; "he earned his degree at Princeton summa cum laude"
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

A degree is any of a wide range of awards made by institutions of higher education, such as universities, normally as the result of successfully completing a program of study.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academic_degree

If complete a program of study at Concord or Taft, then you get an accredited, academic degree.

Nice try, though.

 

"If complete a program of study at Concord or Taft, then you get an accredited, academic degree".

Unfortunately such a non-bar degree will not allow you into the academic world as a professor of any kind.

State Bar accredited law schools will only hire those admitted to the State Bar and ABA law schools only hire those with an ABA accredited J.D. degree.

Even though Concord and Taft have DETC accredition for their non-Bar J.D. degree; the degree is useless since it does not allow practice of law or admission to the bar and it is NOT REGIONALY ACCREDITED so you would not be able to use that degree to teach at a regionally accredited university!

WHAT'S THAT MATTER YOU CANT COMPLETE A BAR QUALIFYING J.D. DEGREE? LOL