McCarthy "is open" to bring Speaker again.

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  1. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    I don't think folks die from dysentery anymore if they get modern medical help. So I'd guess most likely from a stroke or heart attack. Which I think translates pretty closely into "a surfeit of cheeseburgers."
     
  2. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Exactly how I figured. Peaches - cheeseburgers. Different methods - same final result.
     
  3. Dustin

    Dustin Well-Known Member

    "Rep. Tom Emmer has dropped out of the speaker's race just hours after his party selected him as their latest nominee."

    Bah.

    Edit: Also this

     
  4. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Yeah. He wouldn't lie for Trump. Pesky thing, an oath to support the Constitution. Trump doesn't understand that.
     
  5. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    I have been muttering here at times that maybe the Democrats should offer support to some Republican like Emmer but I'm starting to think that really would be a mistake in the long term. Better to allow the diseased and decaying corpse of the GOP to reach its ultimate end as soon as possible rather than artificially prolong its existence. A corpse is poisonous to those around it.
     
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  6. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    House Republicans are just speed-dating now.
     
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  7. Dustin

    Dustin Well-Known Member

    I was shocked when Trump said Jesus is the only person who could get voted in. When Trump the narcissist doesn't put his own name up, even hypothetically, you know it's bad.
     
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  8. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    MSNBC reported an idea floating around: McCarthy as Speaker and Jordan as "assistant Speaker."

    Double Secret Speaker?

    "Yeah, I have a Speaker, but you don't know him. He goes to a different Congress."
     
  9. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Well, we need to keep the government open. We need to fund Israel and Ukraine. I'm afraid that I'm asking too much of the broken Republican party that is supposed to be running the House of Representatives.
     
  10. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Especially the fund Ukraine part. Putin's sycophant Trump doesn't like the Ukraine funding idea.
     
  11. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    GOP Rep. Johnson is an insurrectionist and significant MAGA figure. Ideal Speaker material. I will be interested, in a horrified kind of way, to see if Trump’s enthusiastic endorsement will carry the day. I don't think it will. Not all GOP members are fascists. Yet.
     
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  12. Rachel83az

    Rachel83az Well-Known Member

    I think it's more that why would he "stoop" to that office when he "IS" President?
     
  13. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Once again, I'm wrong. The GOP elected an openly insurrectionist lawyer as Speaker of the House.
     
  14. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    “pastoral counselor.”

    The title of the first episode was “Can America Be Saved?”

    That question is familiar to many American evangelicals. It shows how Johnson, the new speaker of the House, is a product of conservative evangelicalism and Deep South Republican political culture.

    Johnson got a law degree at Louisiana State University and spent nearly two decades working mostly for conservative legal groups who focused on issues of importance to religious conservatives.

    He worked for ADF,
    ADF touts itself as working to defend the rights of conservative Christians to express their views on matters of sexuality and religion, which has gained it a reputation for advocating for discrimination against sexual minorities. It also has worked to limit or even ban abortion and access to contraception.

    Johnson argued in favor of a ban on same-sex marriage before the Louisiana Supreme Court and has continued to advocate for those views as a legislator.

    I personally hoped for a speaker that would promote bipartisan cooperation so the country can together resolve important issues.
    Hard to see how this speaker will be objective on diversity etc. What will his stand be on extremist (and Nazi) groups.

    Yet his background shows that compassionate Christian , evangelical may actually if truthful to his faith be an understanding and sensitive to society issues.

    Time will show.
     
  15. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Immediately adjacent, presumably.
     
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  16. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Hope not.
     
  17. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Well, the GOP at-large voted in an insurrectionist, misogynist-and-other-nasty-things businessman as President in 2016 -- and that guy was also Putin's flunky, lackey, toady and fart-catcher in perpetuity, so what's the surprise factor, re: Johnson? I just don't see one.

    I think the only straw that can possibly be grasped here is - that Trump wasn't a declared insurrectionist until Jan 6, 2021.

    "Git th'rope anyway, Clem.
    Fer which one, Zeke?
    BOTH of 'em..."
     
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  18. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    MAGA wins.

    There was some hope out there that "sane" Republicans would come around and isolate their insane neighbors. Instead, they capitulated.

    The House is run by an election-denier. The leading Republican presidential candidate (a near-lock for the nomination) is the king of election deniers.

    Somebody better check on ol' Mitch 'cause he's next.
     
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  19. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    The Democrats MIGHT have been able to take advantage of the situation. Don't know. But Jeffries decided to stand by and let the GOP struggle for awhile. I think Jeffries probably knows what he is doing. The Speaker won't be able to pass anything too outrageous due to his tiny majority and the Senate. If Johnson delivers only more chaos, well, there's an election coming up.
     
  20. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    McCarthy tried stupid stunts like passing general statements in the house using his minimal majority then used that to claim some kind of leverage to make laws. The house majority probably can't pass anything without Democratic votes. Based on grandiose statements by Mike Johnson he seems to think he has the power to get his extreme agenda passed into law. He hasn't even tried to play the stupid McCarthy trick to at least pretend to polish this illusion and dress it up as legitimate.

    It will be interesting to see how this turns out. My guess is that the Republicans are just going to be even worse under Johnson than they were under McCarthy. I'm afraid that the government is headed for a shutdown and very little if anything is going to get passed.
     

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