Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson

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  1. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    I would love to live in a world where being a black woman is not a factor in many ways, yet we are not in that world. From my limited experience, heck yeah, black women tend to have a point of view that is more realistic, in some ways, than that of the other folks. Again, that would not occur in a world where race and gender wouldn't have effect on someone's experience - but we are not living in that world. So yeah, here and now, rah rah diversity and representation.
     
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  2. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    My view of Maniac's point about fence sitting is that when sitting on the fence one has the best view of both sides. One can see into both yards unobstructed. if one is sitting on the left side of the fence it is much more difficult to appreciate what is on the right side and vice versa. I believe this to be very true. I try to get at least some news from a more middle of the road media source everyday for this reason. Heck I used to even watch Fox News when Trump was in office just because I felt it was the best way to try to understand what the traitor's evil plan was. :eek::mad::p
     
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  3. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    This is so true!!

    If Justice Jackson had lost her composure and acted even half way as confrontational and disrespectful as the white male Justice Kavanaugh did during his confirmation hearing she would have been crucified. She has had to be perfect her whole life to get to where she is today.

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    Indeed, with every response, Jackson must thread the needle ever so carefully remaining likeable, yet authoritative, deferential, yet expert…and always non-threatening irrespective of what is thrown her way.
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/danabrownlee/2022/03/23/why-ketanji-brown-jackson-cant-dare-display-a-brett-kavanaugh-temperament/?sh=4eecab3b60d9
     
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  4. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Fortunately, the last sentence of my remark shows that what came before was not akin to Statement 3.
     
  5. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    That's true. Sorry.
     
  6. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    Q: What shape is the Earth?

    Republicans: Flat!
    Democrats: Racist!

    Maniac Craniac: An oblate spheroid.
    Stanislav: That's just a Republican talking point.

    If your limited experience was that black women were angry and irrational, would it be ok to stereotype them as such? If it doesn't work one way then it can't work the other. The only way to not be racist is to NOT shoehorn people into a mold according to immutable characteristics.

    It's nice to know that, unlike a certain other person on this forum, you don't think I'm the evil traitor!

    I wonder how she would have reacted if she was accused of rape and nobody in the media was interested in hearing her side of the story. Or if she was told that the country didn't need any more people of her gender and skin color in positions of responsibility.
     
  7. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    Do you need links to Republicans accusing Biden (or, more often, Harris) of vaccine hesitancy?

    Yet people do shoehorn people into molds according to immutable characteristics. And guess what? It tend to MOLD these people, and inform their decisions. There are even studies to this effect. Again, rah rah representation!


    We saw her reacting to people accusing her of covering for an evil satanic child-rape ring (and, oh, being "soft on crime"). She did better than a certain person of my gender and skin color.
     
  8. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    Do you believe that stereotyping is wrong? (some of the time, most of the time or all of the time?)

    Do you believe that racial profiling is wrong? (some of the time, most of the time, or all of the time?)

    As I mentioned before, we can't have it one way and not the other. If it's ok to stereotype and racially profile for positive characteristics, then it can't be wrong to stereotype and racially profile for negative characteristics. This is by definition. There's no difference between saying race A is smarter than race B and saying race B is not as smart as race A.
     
  9. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    The main behavioral differences between different races is learned behavior. Race is really more of a social cultural construct than it is a genetic definition. There is more genetic diversity within Africa than there is between the races.

    for example,
    Study: Africans More Genetically Diverse Than Rest of World
    "Africans are more diverse genetically than the inhabitants of the rest of the world combined, according to a sweeping study that carried researchers into remote valleys and mountaintops to sample the bloodlines of more than 100 distinct populations."
    https://www.geneticsandsociety.org/article/study-africans-more-genetically-diverse-rest-world#:~:text=Africans are more diverse genetically,more than 100 distinct populations.

    I've mentioned before that my parents were racist. They didn't believe they were because they say they didn't hate anyone. They were racist anyway. They thought that blacks were less intelligent than whites but the blacks were better athletes than whites. They were Democrat until after the civil rights act of 1968 and eventually switched parties to Republican, like most of the other racists have done in this country. Like my parents, I suspect that the vast majority of racist folks don't know that they are racist.
     
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  10. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    Stereotyping is wrong. Your turn:

    Do you believe that there is no appreciable difference in learned experience between races in America? Between genders?
    Do you agree that some learned experiences can shape a person's worldview, and inform their responses to tasks before them?

    There are studies showing how adding diversity to corporate boards improve companies' performance. There are reasons it does. Again, I would love to live on Equestria where obstacles a person faces do not depend on their immutable characteristics, but it is simply not our world. Ruby Bridges is alive and well today. Come to think of it, even on Equestria Alicorns are overrepresented among high-status individuals compared to Earth Ponies, so...
     
  11. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    You're a My Little Pony expert. My kids were into My Little Pony. That was 30 years ago! I don't remember much but it looks like much is new anyway. I just mention this in case anyone else had even less clue what this was about than me. Carry on. :D
     
  12. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Man, I love this place. :D
     
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  13. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

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    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

  15. Charles Fout

    Charles Fout Active Member

    Confirmed!
     
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  16. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    If you had children the same age as mine, you'd appreciate that MLP Friendship Is Magic series are far more watchable than the rest of stuff aimed at small children.
    My thought process, however, was a Russian internet meme of referring to an unrealistic utopia as "the land of pink ponies". Sometimes this gets directly linked to MLP, hence - Equestria as a synonym for the "pink ponies". It is funny because there is actually a fair amount of problems and tension at that place, enough to fuel 9 seasons of adventures by Twilight Sparkle and the gang.
     
  17. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Um. Well okay then...
     
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  18. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    I haven't watched it, but I've heard the same thing from others.

    Phineas and Ferb, on the other hand, I have watched, and it's fantastic.

    "Aren't you a little old to be watching Phineas and Ferb?"
    "Why yes... yes I am."
     
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  19. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    My g'kids watch an Australian cartoon called "Bluey". I'm not sure what it's about really but it seems harmless enough. The U.S. censored a scene of a unicorn defecating in front of the kids though...bet you don't see THAT in MLP!
     
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  20. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Sesame Street was masterful at appealing to kids and adults I remember.
     
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