Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson

Discussion in 'Political Discussions' started by Charles Fout, Mar 21, 2022.

Loading...
  1. Charles Fout

    Charles Fout Active Member

    Watching CSPAN. I am now a fan of Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson. I pray the Senate just performs its role in providing advice and consent.

    No more partisan character assassination please
     
    chrisjm18 and Bill Huffman like this.
  2. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    I appreciate that she spent two years as a public defender. I just hope that she'll still believe that "presidents are not kings" when the blue team has the ball.
     
  3. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Oh she will be fine. I just wish she wasn't another damned Harvard Law grad. A very small group of law schools have a near death grip on the nation's legal education system and high federal office and that's unhealthy for the democracy.
     
  4. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    You mean -- like Barack and Michelle Obama? I liked them both. Still do. :)
    Could it possibly be because they're the best? Just asking - I have no horse in this.
    BTW - I just read up a bit about Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson. I'm very impressed.
     
    chrisjm18 and Charles Fout like this.
  5. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    There's little doubt that Harvard Law school is at least near the best. I would say it is very similar to Universities in general. Some schools are definitely better than others. I would argue though that the graduates of top tier schools are probably not all better than graduates from schools that have an almost as good of a reputation. It is just the way it works. It arguably would be nice to see some highly qualified candidates chosen from some of these other schools.

    I'm speaking in general here. I have no intent on implying that Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson is not very qualified and an excellent choice.
     
    Johann likes this.
  6. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    My loud and repeated objection is that Harvard Law and a very few others crearted for themselves and enforce for themselves a dangerous monopoly and they do it through the purest kind of discrimination; the Old School Tie.
     
    Charles Fout likes this.
  7. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

  8. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Neither do I. But I'm sure you can easily find some pathological liars somewhere who will be eager to tell you.
     
    Rachel83az likes this.
  9. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

  10. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    I find it very sad to the point of frightening sometimes that the vast majority of the Republican party believes Trump's Big Lie. This penchant for lying has really become a defining quality of the current Republican party. :(
     
  11. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Possibly the penchant for being fanatical believers is even more dangerous than the marked tendency toward pathological lying.
    I remember a joke-shop that used to sell cans of fake "Anti-Bullshit Spray." We need the real thing. Tons of it.
     
  12. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    The GOP is terrible.

    Good thing the Democrat party is here to
    gaslight, patronize, tokenize, pander, self-aggrandize, scapegoat, propogandize, manipulate and subject us all to a relentless onslaught of narcissistic abuse. I don't know what I'd do without them!
     
    Johann likes this.
  13. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Yep - Charybdis & Scylla. And that's not a law partnership.
     
    Maniac Craniac likes this.
  14. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    There's this global view that "my party" is honest and accommodating to compromise. This applies to both sides. It is part of human nature, I think. I'm fully aware of this. I'll not argue that the Democratic party is without fault.

    Something has fundamentally changed in the GOP though. We can argue about what the cause it. Some say that it is Trump. I believe though that it has roots in the old GOP attacks against the media. This was fully embraced by Fox News. Fox News's line being essentially you can only trust us. This lead to a majority in the GOP base dismissing the more middle of the road media sources, CBS, NBC, and ABC. Now admittedly the far left has MSNBC and CNN which is similar to Fox only skewed to the left rather than the right. However, the left is much more likely to also get some of their news from the more moderate CBS, NBC, and ABC than the GOP. This has a tendency I believe to keep the left in general a little more grounded in reality. Then what happened is that Trump came along and utilized this situation to strongly pressure Fox to start pushing his pathological lies. Newsmax and OANN then came along and aggressively pushed the whole mess even further to the right and less in touch with reality. The lie that perfectly exemplifies this current situation where the GOP is being detached from reality is Trump's Big Lie about Biden stealing the election.
     
    Last edited: Apr 5, 2022
  15. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    You know I'm not going to disagree. But I will say the last few years have made me more sympathetic to P.J. O'Rourke, who said he was supporting Clinton over Trump because at least she was "wrong within normal parameters".
     
  16. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    If there's any hope for the future of this country, it's not coming from the Republican party. I've never had an optimistic view of politics, but Trump making it to office has left me hopelessly cynical. How could almost half the country do that to us?! But the worst part of it is that in the intervening years, I honest-to-god can't think of any way shape or form that Clinton, and now Biden, would have been any better. Lest we forget that Biden was the one who originally called for vaccine skepticism because Orange Man Bad. He was willing to gamble our lives away for the sake of politics.

    I know I'm very harsh on the Democrat party on this forum, but it's not because I think they are worse than Republican party. It's because it's next to impossible to avoid its propaganda without completely separating from civilization, and I find it tiresome. On the other hand, I'd have to deliberately seek out Republican propoganda if I wanted it, but I don't want it, so I never see it. Problem solved!

    I've been accused of fence sitting and both-siding, and ok, yeah, I admit that's true. When I was a religious fundamentalist, the tenets of the faith required me to be apolitical. All I saw was wickedness and corruption in politics, and that's one of the few things I still think I was actually right about.

    To make a short story long, I like Ms.Jackson as a judicial nominee and I sincerely hope she gets nominated. Not because she's a black woman (it makes me sick to my stomach that demographics was a real factor in her selection), but because she's actually qualified, has no known history of being a bad person, and clearly knows her stuff. That's about all I could ever ask for.

    On the politics side of it- Joe Biden thought it extremely important that this judicial nominee be a woman, but nobody in the Democrat party is willing to define what a woman is. Typical.

    Anyway, thanks to everyone here who just read through another one of my insufferable diatribes. Sometimes I feel like I say too much, because the reality is that I'm still just trying to figure it all out.:emoji_v:
     
    Bill Huffman likes this.
  17. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    You say that like it's a bad thing. One sees more clearly by remaining above the fray than by cheerleading for one team or the other. I know this will sound funny, but if anything, our Democratic friends here should be happy that both of the solidly nonpartisan folks here agree that their party is the only one that's even worth criticizing.
     
    Maniac Craniac likes this.
  18. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    Oh yes, if only the Democrats were gentler to fine folks who believe that Democrats are the members of a murderous Satanic cult of pedophile rapists. Which is, you know, not just a real belief, but the very same tune formerly reputable Sen. Graham dog whistle is playing to.
    If you want political correctness, there is only one side for which it is even a notion. And that's not GOP. As I said, no redeeming value.
     
  19. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    I admit I can't pretend to be impartial, being on record here as a HRC fan. But I can't imagine anyone making this statement here with a straight face. It makes literally less sense than Trump fandom; at least their delusion can be somewhat internally consistent.

    On Mr. Biden: during the campaign, I believed any candidate on the Dem side (other than Gabbard, Bloomberg, and Bernie Sanders) would have been a better choice. They are younger and more talented. But I see now that Biden might have been the right choice, for our times.

    This is a Fox talking point, so oversimplified and out of context as to be a complete slander. There are better ways to be impartial.
     
  20. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    Statement 1: Earth is flat
    Statement 2: Earth is a sphere
    Statement 3: Statements 1 and 2 are both false, truth is unknowable.

    Technically, all 3 statements are wrong. However, 2 and even 1 yield a useful model of the world, while 3 is useless garbage. There are ways of "being above the fray" that are akin to statement 3. You can look up Isaac Azimov's essay on "relativity of wrong" for a better stab at this argument.
     

Share This Page