How to choose an UNACCREDITED school?

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by LearningAddict, Sep 4, 2020.

  1. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    I agree. This is not what I'd call an inexpensive deal, though, but I still like it. The Signum program is a luxury item - maybe the price of a lower-end Cartier watch. And I think it's worth it.

    I, too, learned Modern German - many years ago in school, and more recently went through a couple of books and a whole bunch of free* lectures on Anglo-Saxon. I was surprised to see so much correlation in vocabulary between the two. The modern language helps a lot in learning the older one. I've seen a page or two of Gothic and I think Modern German would help somewhat there, too - but not as much. Any Germanic roots you can get come in handy for Scandinavian languages of course. And Dutch. Old Norse, too, and Icelandic, both of which might be important at Signum.

    * The lectures were put up on YouTube - so I made use of them. They were originally made for one of the big Course Companies - The Great Courses etc. by a professor who - you guessed it - teaches for Signum. (He also has a day-gig at an RA College). He's a terrific instructor - his name is Michael Drout. If his work is a sample of what you get at Signum - then it's pretty darn good.
  2. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    When it comes to unaccredited schools, YMMV. Personally, I think that people who use them as a substitute for accredited schools are making a mistake. But I also feel there are good arguments to be involved with an unaccredited school if other factors preponderate.

    In the 1970s, an argument could be made for working professionals to pursue a doctorate at an unaccredited school. The accredited options were so few, and we really didn't know what would happen to all those innovative universities. The ones with substance, we now know, went on to become accredited. (For the most part.) But it seemed like such an uphill climb at the time. There were seriously legitimate reasons to consider that path. Back then.

    Now? Not so much. But let's not wave our hands and dismiss the notion entirely. But....even an innovative, niche school should pursue and obtain accreditation. The standards--especially around finances--are high, but it can be done.

    California is the last frontier for unaccredited-yet-legitimate schools, and that state is shutting down its approval process. (Mostly.) It's move up or move out; get accredited or get gone. I suspect we'll see the last of the original niche schools either get it or go. The end of an era.
  3. Messdiener

    Messdiener Member

    Nice review, Johann. Such a hobby degree would certainly be expensive, admittedly. I may start out with some free learning materials (as you have suggested)!

    It's funny that you mention Scandinavian languages as I've recently been watching a series on Netflix called "The Rain", which comes from Denmark. Even without subtitles, I find that I catch quite a few keywords, which sound remarkably similar to modern standard German. Have you had similar successes with Nordic tongues?
  4. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    I did watch one popular subtitled Danish series a few years ago - it was mostly about (fictional) Danish politicians, their work and rivalries and their involved and sometimes convoluted love lives. I forget the name. Turned off my TV for good several years ago. My experience was similar re: word recognition through German. I also learned they were quite profane - just as we are - and they use the English "F" word quite a lot. I'm not really surprised that there's a correlation. The Danes claimed quite a slice of England from the Anglo-Saxon kings (The Danelaw) and we had two Danish Kings of England - Sven Forkbeard and his son Cnut (Knut - Canute). They left their mark.

    I've read that the closest Germanic relative to English is Friesian Dutch. There was even an English (or was it Friesian) proverb about it in late medieval times - "Good butter and good cheese is good English and good Fries." There are a couple of English-Friesian conversations on YouTube to prove that the correlation still exists. I think they were put up for the edification and enjoyment of people interested in either or both of Anglo-Saxon or Middle English.

    Norwegian and Swedish - I've never had any experience with. I know there are two distinct Norwegian languages - I'm pretty sure they're mutually intelligible. Swedish -
    Jag vet ingenting. (I know nothing.)

    I've had a look at Icelandic, which I'm told is little different from Old Norse. It's not completely unintelligible to me (only about 97%) but there seems to be less I can glean from Modern German. I'll get back to it, because it fascinates me. Any Icelander who can read his daily newspaper (And that's all of them - 100% literacy) can read his country's 12th-Century literature. That's rare! If I ever get to Signum, I'm sure I'll have lots of Icelandic and Old Norse there - all the Myths!

    One of the best things about learning German - it's a passport to Yiddish - the mamaloshen. Now there's a language! I still remember 60 years back - as a teenager, with a year or two of German, going into a Jewish-owned store and hearing a couple of guys talking --- and hey, I could understand maybe about half! That really turned the light on!
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