Harris-Trump Debate

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  1. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    West Virginia goes Republican for sure but if the Democrats sweep the rest (hardest will probably be to unseat Ted Cruz in Texas) and win the Presidency then Waltz would be the tie breaking vote. I'll keep my fingers crossed.
     
  2. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    For that to happen you'll have to tie them in knots.
     
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  3. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    It would require a clean sweep. I never said it was likely. One can hope for the unlikely. :D
     
  4. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    I don't know how unlikely that really is. Just watch the GOP panicking about a federal IVF rights protection bill.
     
  5. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Last night Trump announced his analysis of the election if he loses. It will be the fault of the Jews if Trump loses. Trump announced this at an antisemitism meeting. Some might think that Trump thought the meeting was an antisemite meeting instead of an antisemitism meeting? :D

    Trump says at antisemitism event that Jewish voters would bear some blame if he loses in November
    https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/19/politics/trump-jewish-voters-antisemitism-event/index.html

    Note that Jews are only about 2.4% of the population.
     
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  6. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Can a new Kristallnacht be that far behind?
     
  7. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Let's hope that he doesn't win the election!

    Springfield Ohio is getting racists protesting on the streets and lots of bomb threats. My concern is that should Trump push this antisemite nonsense like the silly Haitians eating pets lie then we might start seeing Trump's racist soldiers acting on that stuff also.
     
  8. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Why did the chicken cross the road?

    To avoid another debate with Kamala Harris.
     
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  9. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    CNN has invited them for another debate, and Harris accepted the invitation. Strangely enough, some conservatives wanted a CNN debate if they couldn't get Fox News. I guess CNN was considered fair and balanced during the Trump-Biden debate because Trump was allowed to lie.
     
  10. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    There are some MAGA pundits who seem sure Trump will do another debate. I don't think so. The man goes around saying that he won the last debate but he made himself famous as a media star of sorts. He knows what sells and what does not. I suspect he is afraid of another encounter. He's right.
     
  11. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    I'm reminded of this:

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  12. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Pope Pius VII: I crown thee....

    Napoleon: Pope, buddy. I got this. Hold my beer....
     
  13. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Not sure what is the value of this survey.
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-leading-three-battleground-sun-151516871.html
    Former President Donald Trump leads Vice President Kamala Harris in three critical battleground states: Arizona, North Carolina and Georgia, according to a new poll by the New York Times and Siena College.

    The poll, released on Monday and conducted from Sept. 17 to 21, surveyed 713 voters in Arizona, 682 voters in Georgia and 682 voters in North Carolina. Each state has a margin of error between four and five percentage points.
     
  14. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    The fact that we're talking about Georgia and North Carolina as battleground states is bad for Trump, not good.
     
  15. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    North Carolina is a more recent swing state. Arizona and Georgia were reliably red until 2020. Now, the news is talking about Harris closing the gap in Texas, Iowa, and Alaska.
     
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  16. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    One of the terrible things about the electoral college - candidates only campaign in a handful of states. Harris' schedule looks like she's staying in Arizona, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, North Carolina, Georgia, Nevada, Michigan, etc. I know the Democrats don't want to make the same mistake Hillary Clinton did by not campaigning in a swing state, but you never know when a state will surprisingly flip i.e. Arizona and Georgia. I'd like to see Harris make at least one visit each to Texas, Alaska, and Iowa. I believe Harris was only in Texas for a fundraiser.

    Not only is the gap closing for the presidential race in Texas, but it's also closing between Cancun Cruz and Colin Allred. Harris could possibly piggyback off the hatred for Cruz. Plus, Texas has seen an increase in maternal deaths since Texas' abortion law was passed, and the state government has been threatening LULAC workers who are doing voter registration drives.
     
  17. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    There are 50 states in the US, but because many of them nearly always vote for the same party,
    in reality, there are just a handful where both candidates stand a chance of winning.
    These are the places where the election will be won and lost and are known as battleground states.

    At the moment, the polls suggest that Kamala Harris and Donald Trump are within a couple of percentage points of each other
    in battleground states - and when the race is that close, it’s very hard to predict winners, and pollsters still have to make educated guesses
    about other factors like who will actually turn up to vote on 5 November.

    Polls underestimated support for Trump in both 2016 and 2020. So some polling companies will be trying to fix that problem.
    While CBS News poll indicates that Vice President Kamala Harris has a small edge over Former President Donald Trump, the Times published poll
    shows Trump leading in some battleground states..
     
  18. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

  19. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    Maybe more of them wouldn't always vote the same way if the other side tried to make their case to them. I believe every state is capable of turning.
     
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  20. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Makes sense.
    We know history of states like CA, voted Nixon in 1968 and 72 etc.
    Today it's hard to imagine CA voting GOP.
    Still Trump visited CA on his trail.
    Some counties in SCal still vote GOP.
    Electoral college is the system we have and campaign managers with analysts make strategy and choose where the effort needs to be focused.
     

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