Grupo Tarraco Formacion or oh no, not another Master Propio stuff

Discussion in 'Business and MBA degrees' started by Mac Juli, May 28, 2021.

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  1. Dustin

    Dustin Well-Known Member

    WorldQuant got DEAC recently. Even when it was free I was envious that I didn't have the foundation in calculus to get in. I'm working on my calculus and linear algebra now, though, for my data science coursework.
     
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  2. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    I believe he is doing the double degree with UCN, Azteca's doctorate is also a propio degree with limited use as it is not official.
    I remember very well Berne, many US professors were doing this degree given the limited availability of US options. I asked myself for an application package at the time but decided against it as it was from a not very solid school.
     
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  3. LearningAddict

    LearningAddict Well-Known Member

    To be fair, as there are almost no guarantees in life, quality isn't guaranteed whether a program is regulated or not as even accredited schools have produced bad programs.
     
  4. cacoleman1983

    cacoleman1983 Active Member

    Azteca/UCN are not solid schools. Many foreign credential evaluators have blacklisted them. However, for distance learning, they are comparable to the US online for-profit schools that are 10x the price. I mentioned in an earlier post that I am leaving my job and career in adult / higher education to pursue a career in Healthcare IT which will give me a major boost in pay. My major at Azteca/UCN program is a PhD in Education where when I complete it will result in twin degrees, one propio from Azteca and an official one from UCN. I'm only doing it for personal development as a hobby and the title. How this degree will affect my career now that I am out of education remains to be seen but I certainly don't need the Azteca/UCN PhD. When I get the foreign evaluation that equates it to a regionally accredited PhD, I will no doubtfully have it placed in my personnel file at work with no expectations of a pay increase or promotion but anything can happen. I might try and get a class or two to teach online and maybe do some consulting on the side.
     
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  5. Garp

    Garp Active Member

    UCN is a recognized equivalent of an RA University. What has been posted here is that the reluctance to evaluate it has nothing to do with the quality itself but the seeming proliferation of them from a Central American school through a third-party (if I understand). You will have earned a PhD and not be six figures in debt to Walden, Capella, and so on.
     
  6. LearningAddict

    LearningAddict Well-Known Member

    Since UCN is recognized by the only authority in its country that can do so, it's true that they are generally considered equivalent by evaluators that still accept their degrees for evaluation. However, Cacoleman is taking into account the issues they've had with blacklisting and the chain of associations they've had with other blacklisted schools. In that chain you'll find Azteca, Swiss Management Center (who recently attempted some shenanigans here and got shut down, lol), and a few others. That may or may not have anything to do with educational quality, but it's a point to be cautious of, and with SMC we have had reports from some members that the program was awful. Haven't heard the same for Azteca or UCN.
     
  7. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    Some of the issues with this operation is the outsourcing issue. A private company overseas delivers the course locally and UCN/Azteca grants the degree. I believe some evaluators would consider Azteca (with RVOE) and UCN degrees granted on campus as RA equivalent. This type of operation is normal with UK, Australian and even some Canadian universities. The education business is becoming complex so I believe this would become normal in the future.
     
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  8. cacoleman1983

    cacoleman1983 Active Member

    I think most companies in the private sector may be satisfied with an ENEB Masters degree or other propio graduate provided their other credentials are good. Most companies in the private sector only want a Bachelors anyway so a Masters Propio or an non-accredited Masters can still be considered a plus provided that the school is reputable and credential are verifiable. If it doesn't count as a degree, it is still continuing education which at the employer's discretion often replaces a degree. I'm speaking based on the US.

    Also, speaking on validation of degrees, since we have Coursera and other well known MOOC's partnering up with universities to offer degrees, many from the US would be open minded about the Azteca/UCN relationship as well as other foreign partnerships because they are quite similar to what Coursera and others are doing. It's more of a problem for evaluators who wants to keep their university partners happy who overcharge their students and want to blacklist inexpensive foreign universities who make partnerships with legitimate businesses or colleges offering education services that are in line with higher education standards for credit and degrees.
     
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  9. cacoleman1983

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