Greenleaf University's ABD Program?

Discussion in 'Accreditation Discussions (RA, DETC, state approva' started by Dave Wagner, Nov 25, 2007.

  1. Dave Wagner

    Dave Wagner Active Member

    Does anybody have any recent knowledge about Greenleaf University and/or their ABD (i.e., doctoral completion) program? (I'm fairly certain that we have discussed this school associated with Norman Pearson in the past, but I didn't see anything in Search. Bears Guide has a brief, non-glowing discussion of Greenleaf.)

    I recently saw the name mentioned on another board. They are believed to be working toward regional accreditation with North Central.

  2. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member


    That's not what accreditation is, and they can't possibly not know that. Misrepresenting accreditation is a classic sign of a mill.

    That will happen roughly around the time that I'm elected president of Mars.

  3. Dave Wagner

    Dave Wagner Active Member

  4. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    Greenleaf University is not a regionally accredited school. Just FYI. :)
  5. CalDog

    CalDog New Member

    That's because they are listed here:

    Legally, "GREENLEAF UNIVERSITY INSTITUTE FOR PROFESSIONAL STUDIES, AN AMERICAN GRADUATE SCHOOL" is registered with the State of Missouri as a Non-Profit Corporation, not as an institution of higher education. So it may not even be eligible for accreditation.
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  6. Dave Wagner

    Dave Wagner Active Member

    It seems that the exaggerated claim of work toward regional accreditation is up, up, and away, in my beautiful, my beautiful, b a l l o o n..., if they aren't even registered as an institution of higher learning in MO.

  7. dlady

    dlady Active Member

    I believe that if you are legitimately pursuing accreditation then one of the rules is you can not talk about the fact that you are pursuing accreditation…
  8. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Not exactly. DETC, because it doesn't have a candidacy status, prefers its applicants not make any forward-looking statements regarding accreditation.

    I'm not so sure the regionals have the same policy, especially since they not only award candidacy status, but also correspondent status to those schools that seem to meet--on paper--the requirements for accreditation.

    Finally, none of this is written in stone. It would be reasonable for a school to acknowledge it has submitted an application for accreditation by the DETC, since DETC themselves publish this information. But saying anything about their likelihood of success might cause them some trouble with DETC.
  9. dlady

    dlady Active Member

    What is candidacy status and why doesn’t DETC have it?
  10. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member Staff Member

    Most accreditation agencies grant accreditation candidacy status to schools that are being reviewed for possible accreditation. In the case of DETC, they have applicant status. Apparently the difference is that with accreditation candidacy status, there has been some preliminary review and the school has been found worthy of further investigation for possible accreditation while with accreditation applicant status at DETC, anybody can apply for accreditation and thus become an accreditation applicant.
  11. TEKMAN

    TEKMAN Semper Fi!

    I know there is a member of this forum own Greenleaf University; however, I don't know if he is still an active member. He posted a message about several years ago and stated that he is the owner.
  12. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member't....breathe.....:eek:

    IT'S NOT A UNIVERSITY! It's a business pretending to be a university. Like Knightsbridge, Palmers Green, and hundreds of others.
  13. AuditGuy

    AuditGuy Member

    The first rule of "Fight Club"!
  14. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member


  15. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

    To the best of my knowledge there is no such thing as a legitimate "ABD program." If I'm wrong I'm willing to learn but you're going to have to show me.
  16. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    Now that was funny!!! :)
    I couldn't have said it better myself. ;)
  17. cklapka

    cklapka New Member

    I have seen schools state their candidacy status (for regional accreditation) when they are going though the process, both the Art Institute(Pittsburgh) and the University of Advancing Technology are examples. The Art Institute was very hard to find (in their catalog) where as UAT was right on their website.
  18. Steve King

    Steve King Member


    I like that they felt it necessary to include on their website that, "OUR MOTTO IS: First Things First"

    What the...!? :rolleyes:
  19. Dave Wagner

    Dave Wagner Active Member

    That's also the second rule of Fight Club...

  20. Dave Wagner

    Dave Wagner Active Member

    Hi Rich, you're talking about Greenleaf, right?


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