GAAP is not RA

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by DWCox, Aug 20, 2003.

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  1. DWCox

    DWCox member


    In the minds of the RA Nazis I am NEVER right. Very few poster on this NG with any degree of exposure to this NG are willing to take on the RA Nazi's. You see, RA is KING and even I know that but I will endorse education -- regardless of where it occurs. Heck, an unaccredited degree is better than no degree.

    There are a many books which are nothing more than knock-offs of Bear's guides and many other people financially benefitting from Bear's hard-earned time and research. Gus is one of those persons.
  2. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    Interesting historical account. But hardly relevant to the issue.
    That's a lie. ACCS is no mill, but when you lie while defending it, you sure make it look like one. Shame on you.
  3. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    That's two strong statements and zero evidence. Accountability?
  4. DWCox

    DWCox member


    I never went from anonymous to accountable! I simply have stated in many ways that some of us aren't afraid to express our opinions and reveal who we are.

    And this is nothing more than a old position of Rich's. Read through some of the older threads on's distance education forum.

    Gus, knows what professional certifications I have and has gone as far as reading me the code of ethics. Beyond that he has advised me to watch what I say and do, because I am vulnerable due to this information and in who knows this information. Gus, has gone as far as verifying my certifications, which he found to be accurate and up-to-date.

    It's easy to shout from behind a wall.
  5. DWCox

    DWCox member


    The issue is degree utility. And you really should read all the former posts from Rich related to the usefulness of a degree that is not RA and of questionable GAAP status, before you comment.

    What are you a suck-up! Must be because you certainly don't know the issue.
  6. DWCox

    DWCox member


    Rich, you have advised others not to bother with any DL book but Bear's and you posted that the others are knock-offs.

    I hope your comments remain on but if not, I'll apologize.

    You know what? I won't apologize because a complete history is not available and all I really need to do is stand behind my comments.
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  7. DWCox

    DWCox member

    I am well-aware that a very small number of Mexican institutions are RA.

    While you're wasting time, why don't you check with the western assoication, I think you'll find a couple here too, but I'm not confident.
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  8. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    How do you know I haven't read it? Can you prove it? That's another lie. Liar, liar, pants on fire!

    Rich had commented favourably more than a few times about DETC schools legitimacy (quoting loosely, "it is generally safe to say that no legitimately accredited school is a mill"). Almost all his statements that can be (un)reasinably interpreted as anti-DETC was the same: quoting his and Bear's research showing limited acceptance of such an accreditation. Simple statement of fact, based on sound research, on a particular issue: utility.
    I engoyed numerous threads on MIGS. Levicoff's comments make them a great read. And while Rich might have been mistaken (and attacked), he didn't resort to lies. It escapes me why you feel such a need when your own school is undoubtedly legitimate.
  9. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member


    Boy, is that funny.
  10. DWCox

    DWCox member


    Logging off for a day or two.

    I haven't the time to read and write on a NG for several hours per day.

    DegreeInfo should include all USDOE accreditors with CHEA recognition in the degree finder data base.
  11. Gus Sainz

    Gus Sainz New Member

    You are correct; you are not accountable.

    That’s a vague reference. If you were truly accountable, you would provide actual quotes and or links to the posts.

    I don’t know what professional certifications you actually have; I simply believed you when you claimed them. I did quote you from the Code of Ethics of an organization in which you claimed membership. Your reply, IIRC, was to brazenly state that you would defy the Code of Ethics and dare the professional organization to anything about it.

    That is still good advice. For example, I am still waiting for your public retraction and apology concerning you having accused me of plagiarism. The choice is a simple one: face the situation, act honorably, and apologize, or prove yourself a hypocrite and a liar. The world is watching.

    No, I have not. I did contact an organization that you professed to be a member of, but that was to discuss their Code of Ethics. IIRC, they were quite upset that you posted the contents of a private email in a public forum without permission.

    Moderators please take note: An accusation of plagiarism is one, which if left unchecked, could have serious negative repercussions (both academically and in employment situations). The TOS of this forum expressly forbids posting ”any material which is knowingly false and/or defamatory,” and should protect its members from precisely this kind of false accusation. DWCox should either prove his assertion or retract it—it’s all about accountability.
  12. Gus Sainz

    Gus Sainz New Member

    This would truly be a waste of time as WASC does not accredited any schools in Latin America.

    The Western Association of Schools and Colleges (WASC) is the recognized regional accrediting body in the Western region, which covers California, Hawaii, the territories of Guam, American Samoa, Federated States of Micronesia, Republic of Palau, Commonwealth of the Northern Marianas Islands, the Pacific Basin, and East Asia.

    The Commission on Colleges of the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools (SACS), on the other hand, accredits public and private schools, colleges, and universities in Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Virginia, and in Latin America.

    Wes could’ve easily researched this before posting, but he seems unwilling or incapable of doing so. It should now be obvious to anyone that he has a callous disregard for the truth and cares not one wit how foolish he makes himself out to be on a public forum.

    If Wes’s truthfulness, ethics, research methods, and logic (not to mention command of the English language) are typical of the students that are being granted doctorates from institutions accredited by the other accreditors, then perhaps their reputation and the diminished utility of their degrees is not altogether undeserved.
  13. Jeff Hampton

    Jeff Hampton New Member

    So, was your statement about Mexican universities motivated by your xenophobia? Or was it some back-handed slap at Rich and the MIGS thing?
  14. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    I did not. Apology accepted. Or you can stand behind yet another false statement.
  15. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Jesus Christ, Wes. You put words in my mouth and then refute them with more B.S.

    The MIGS thread is right there for anyone to read. No one needs Wes' warped interpretation--the one he uses to get so many things flat wrong.

    I never said I don't acknowledge degrees inferior to those awarded by RA schools. Anyone who's taken any time to read what I've posted about degree utility can see that. Except you.
  16. DWCox

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  17. DWCox

    DWCox member


    But you don't think these same degrees should be listed in the DegreeInfo degree finder data base, right?
  18. DWCox

    DWCox member

    I never said you engaged in any plagiarism! I did state that you have a knock-off or copy-cat web site. I never said that you were'nt smart enough to change the information enough to make it appear as your own. Do you really think Peterson's guide of distance education was original research? Wake up Gus, it's nothing more than a copy of Bear's hard work.
  19. DWCox

    DWCox member

    I can write just fine Gus, I just don't give a sh.t that my posts here aren't perfect, for people like you. Enough of my work is in public legal files and never has a judge called me out for it.

    But every time someone challenges you or Rich you both resort to this personal smack.

    Maybe I'll take the time to go back and research the many times you've engaged in this behavior, maybe not. But it is all there for all to see. But since no one knows who you are why does it matter?

    Someone developed an entire thread to this sorry topic and the overwhelming opinion was that to call someone on their use of any lanugage is in poor taste, since it is the information presented not the perfect nature of its presentation.

    Go ahead Gus, you go find the thread.
  20. Gus Sainz

    Gus Sainz New Member

    Yes you did. Here’s the quote from this very thread.
    That is plagiarism. See? This is what I mean that your words will be here foreever for everyone to see. You are dishonest to an extreme. Either that or you need to buy a good dictionary. Retract your statement and apologize.

    I also asked you to prove that statement and you could not.

    So how do you explain that my Web site lists many more business related degrees than Bears’ Guide or the DegreeInfo database? Where in Bears’ Guide do you click for tuition and curriculum information as you do with the links on my Web site? How do you copy something that isn’t there?

    Your lying, Wes, has reach pathological proportions. If were an opposing attorney, and you were testifying in court, I could easily use your posts in this forum to completely discredit you. :rolleyes:
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