GAAP is not RA

Words like "many," "far less," etc. are imprecise and unnecessary when measurements are available. This is particularly true when one has not analyzed the data. What is the difference between "far less" and "a little less"?

FACT: In both admissions and in employment, degrees from nationally accredited schools are less useful.

 

No. What DETC's survey measured is that, of the graduates who applied for admission to a higher degree program, about 2/3 were successful. If those who tried applied to more than one school each, this could mean that more than 2/3 (or less than 2/3) of schools accept such degrees. There's no way to know, except that Bear's surveyed showed that about 20% always will and another 20% often will.

 

Oxpecker has it right. Please go to DETC's website and download the study.

 

Actually, the way the overall ratings from Bear's survey lined up, it would be:

RA with some residency: 10
RA 100% non-residency: 9
Foreign (GAAP): 7
National Accred: 5

You can't interpret the data if you haven't read the data.

 

Re: You're not helping.

This is so true. By having to respond to the exaggerations and unsupported claims, it makes it sound like some of us are anti-DETC. In my case, nothing could be further from the truth. I really hope they someday achieve a level of comparability in terms of effectiveness and acceptance. But that day isn't here yet.

 

The survey also does not address the number of graduates who, discouraged by their degrees' acceptance, simply did not try to apply. We don't know if there are any out there, but it seems reasonable that there are.

 

Of course not. DETC is only for Dl schools. what was I thinking

I actually was thinking about RA vs. NA schools, such as FMU I believe.

Funny, I thought your study measured the acceptance of dl degrees and one of your conclusions was that the difference in acceptability between B&M and dl degrees was no longer that big (of was this Dr. Bear's study?).

Sorry for the confusion.

-S

 

That wouldn't be going downhill, it would be stepping out of the door of a plane at 30,000 with no parachute.

 

Walden University accepts transfer credit from DETC schools.

Harvard University also accepts transfer credit form DETC schools into their DL/ Bachelor of Liberal Arts (ALB ) program.

More schools will be listed as they reply to my e-mails.

 

Hopefully, these anecdotes are being used to direct graduates from DETC-accredited schools towards regionally accredited schools that might accept them. Because if it is an attempt to demonstrate the level of acceptability, it will be lacking.

 

Thank you James for providing this information.

With oxpecker's information and now yours, I will be contacting some RA universities. I am curious and wish to be accurrate with the correct information.

Thanks again.

 

Harvard's ALB program isn't DL.

 

Amen. You are exactly right Bill.

 

Valerie Dixon of the distance education support staff said that the ALB is the only distance degree or certificate program that accepts transfer credit, other distance degree or certificate programs don't accept any transfer credit. Up to 64 credits may be transfered to Harvard's ALB degree program if it was a C- or better grade. They accept DETC credits towards this degree, up to the maximum of 64 credits.

 

clear degree mill= plusungood
unaccredited = ungood
state approved = good
nationally accredited= plusgood
regionally accredited= doubleplusgood

doubleplusgood= A
plusgood = D ???

What happened to your proposal, change your mind so soon? If doubleplusgood is an (A), then plusgood should be a (B). Let's make proposals we intend to follow.

Here's how I see it, as per your proposal.
clear degree mill=plusungood/ F
unaccredited = ungood / D
state approved = good / C
nationally accredited= plusgood /B
regionally accredited= doubleplusgood /A

 

The more I peer into the crystal ball the more I see DETC becoming redundant. With RA having B&M and DL and DETC being strictly DL, I don't see how they can survive in the long run unless they become the necessary accreditor of all DL even for RA schools. I believe DETC will gain more members over the next several years and could very possibly have their charter expanded to include doctorates. However, there will be a critical point in their lifecycle when the business volume they represent will appear on the competitive business radar of the RA community. I see DETC eventually losing that fight, as long as DETC appears to be a subset of the RA mission academically.

 

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I have no interest in tracking you (or anyone else) down. This was probably a poor choice of words.

However, you and many others make it a point not to disclose any information so as to prevent any one from truly holding you accountable for your commentary.

But, since you haven't any formal degrees arguing degree utility with you is pointless. Oh yes, you do have a copycat web site to protect, don't you.

 

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It's easy to spout off when personal discovery is limited or null.

 

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I am willling to be held accountable for my comments and opinions expressed.

It Gus that is not!

I have never reminded anyone on this NG or any other NG that that a persons comments are forever documented for all to see. What exactly are you referring to -- accountability.