Eneb question again,

Discussion in 'Business and MBA degrees' started by rdl1051, Nov 19, 2023.

  1. rdl1051

    rdl1051 New Member

    I have enrolled in their mba/ master program. ( not using the multiple choice exams)
    I am now thinking of doing the following:

    1 Get as many credits done in the next 8 months from the mba/ master program
    2 Enroll in a master program that I can finish in the shortest possible time, so that by july
    2025 I have a master's degree which is recognised within the EU/ Netherlands/ Belgium

    One option I found is WGU.edu, but am still looking for the maximum transfer credits allowed

    So here are my questions:

    1 Which university would accept the most transfer in credits in the USa or EU? (Uk is not an option due to the high cost)

    2 IS WGU the best option?

    3 Anybody knows if amberton accepts ENEB credits?

    Thanks for all the help in advance.
  2. Dustin

    Dustin Well-Known Member

    I'm not sure anyone has ever tried to transfer ENEB credits into any US or European programs, though I'd be interested in learning if this has happened.

    There have been mixed reception about whether they're even recognized by evaluators, which is a precursor to another school accepting them. If you want to earn a master's degree in 19 months at a US school (between now and July 2025), you could do so at basically any school that doesn't operate on the traditional semester system. Eastern, Amberton, WGU, University of the Cumberlands would all be options. WGU may not meet your EU recognition (see Anabin in Germany), but the others, definitely.

    Cumberlands is $10,650 for a 30-credit master's. Eastern, Amberton are both about $10,000 USD. WGU is $4500 per 6-month term which comes out to $9K per 12 months.
  3. Vicki

    Vicki Well-Known Member

    I do not know of anyone who has transferred credits from ENEB. I have heard of folks using it for admission to another program at a few schools, but not as direct transfer. I would skip the ENEB and just go for the degree you actually want.
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  4. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Indeed. People should buy these ENEB degrees as what they are - very cheap and with known and stated acceptability restrictions. That's FINE, as long as they meet the person's needs. If anyone thinks they're buying $10,000 worth of education for a few hundred bucks - they're not. They should keep their expectations within reality. Just a general guideline - not pointing any fingers here. Hope it saves someone - anyone - out there from grief, aggravation, wasted money and time.
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  5. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    People can go broke from "saving" money on things that don't meet their needs. All coupon-deals are not necessarily good coupon- deals. You know your needs. Stay aware.
  6. Mac Juli

    Mac Juli Well-Known Member


    I heard a - credible - story of someone without German Abitur who was allowed to enter a regular university because of an ENEB Master. So, make out of that whatever you want...

    Best regards,
    Mac Juli
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  7. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Wow! Not a Master's equivalency - nor a Bachelor's - nor an Associates - but a high school equivalency. A GED in disguise! Well, I can't say it's useless - or that it wasn't put to good use. Herzliche Glückwünsche, (Congratulations) to the person who got where they wanted to go. :)

    And yes - I know that more is required of a high school grad there, than here. I have no problem accepting that.
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  8. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    I hope ENEB knows of this. It could open an entire new market for them. MHS - "Master of High School." No - MHS is Health Science. Maybe MSS - "Master of Secondary School." From what I've heard on here, an intelligent person could probably complete an ENEB degree in quicker time than most regular High School completion programs.
    ¡Hasta la Groupon! :)
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  9. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    The first thing is to get your credits evaluated by a member of NACES. With this certificate, you can try Excelsior University and transfer up to 15 credits.

    Excelsior or the like, normally accept WES or ECE that are very picky when it comes to evaluation. I am not sure about ENEB but WES has refused credits of similar propio degrees like CLEA.

    I know it is expensive, but trying to find workarounds with cheap credits from here and there and then try to use them to get a credible degree is not an easy task. For the amount of work and effort, I would just bite the bullet and pay the 10K to get a credible Masters degree. The ENEB degrees are not going to be seen as on top of the list when people see them listed at $99.99 with one exam, WES and alike others are not going to be impressed with the $99.99 one exam deal so most likely will not evaluate.
  10. LearningAddict

    LearningAddict Well-Known Member

    People have transferred ENEB degree credits to U.S. schools. On DegreeForum, one member transferred about 30 credits to Thomas Edison State University into a Bachelor's degree program, and he also used one of his Master's degrees from ENEB and was accepted into the Doctor of Health Administration program at Virginia University of Lynchburg based on it. In both instances, as normal with foreign degrees and credits, he had to submit a foreign credential evaluation to the schools.

    Given that ECE and a few other foreign credential evaluators are known to give U.S. equivalent evaluations to degrees from ENEB, it should be fairly easy at the moment to get credit at most U.S. schools with a successful evaluation.
  11. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    Very good point. With so many low price options, the workaround of getting a propio degree and then use it to get a better degree seems to be non sense. ENEB options are great for continuing education but I cannot see them as a way to bridge into a better degree. There also some top MBA options at UK universities that might be less than 10K, however, they still need to take the $99.99 plus taxes degree so this might or not be the case.

    Technically these are ECTS credits but in practice they are not really easy to transfer. The best you can get for the ENEB degree is a foreign evaluation certificate from a non NACES member like validential that might be enough for a job application. Not all the employers need a certificate from a NACE member, there is evidence that validential gave a US MBA equivalency to the ENEM MBA degree.
  12. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    This is under the assumption that ECE is still giving credit equivalency reports to ENEB graduate. I would validate with them before embarking in the project.
  13. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    Some of the for profit are very lax when it comes to admission to DBAs and PhDs. The validential or similar equivalency might be enough to secure admission into some of the for profits. I don't have anything to back this up but I have worked for this type of schools and they tend to be very flexible when it comes to admission. An option indeed could be to upgrade the ENEB degree with a DBA from a well known for profit.
  14. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Y'know, Mac - I'm not so sure that it was entirely the ENEB degree that swung the deal. One thing I like (among many) about UK and euro-orbit Universities is - they're not bound by what paperwork says. They often look at the applicant - and if they figure that person has the stuff to succeed - they'll let them in, regardless of paperwork. They'll do that here, too. Not completed high school? If you're 21+ apply by the mature student process.

    I think it probably went like this.

    "You have this Spanish degree? That's nice -- you obviously made some effort to learn. We've had a look at you and what you've done. We think you'll do OK here. Now get to work. Economics class starts in 15 minutes -- Room 201. Advance credit for that Spanish thing? Not on your life. Go on, now - you don't want to be late on your first day..."
  15. Dustin

    Dustin Well-Known Member

    One more thing:

    In 2018, you mentioned wanting a master's degree in any subject within 18 months in order to get a promotion.
    In 2020, you asked about master's in HR Management running around $5K USD.
    In 2021 you were looking for a master's in TESOL/TEFL for $8K and taking a maximum of 2 years.

    It's now 2023 and you're looking for a master's to complete within 19 months (or 11 months if you spend the next 8 earning ECTS through ENEB). It might be valuable figuring out what degree is most useful to you and working backwards about how to pay for it and how much time it will take, rather than trying to make a degree fit within these constraints.
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  16. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Yeah that makes a lot of sense...NOT. "Upgrade" a $200 degree with a 15-30K one. "Hello - Ford Dealer? How much to upgrade my 2003 Ford Focus to a new Lincoln Navigator? " Some upgrade! Does the word "preposterous" come to mind? It should.

    Maybe one could save half or more of that money and get the $8,200 French DBA that's been discussed here - attractive (you get to go to Paris) but No State Recognition. .. Or something from Costaragua. Блять!
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  17. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    If one otherwise has no interest in doctoral study, then yes, but if one plans to go on for doctoral study eventually anyway, there's nothing wrong with this approach.
  18. AsianStew

    AsianStew Moderator Staff Member

  19. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    You mean this?

    "I think the best luck might be with an evaluator in a weed-legal State.
    And no - I'm not against propio degrees. I'm against disappointment -- from unrealistic expectations."

    If so, I did.
    EDIT: Oh - sorry. that suggestion was for the OP, not me.
  20. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    The OP expressed interest in a master's degree. One that would be recognized in Europe. Never said anything about doctoral study. I still think the idea of "upgrading" a $200 restricted-use degree at great expense is, in itself, ridiculous. Icing on the cake - with DIAMONDS!
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