EENI Business school - and University?

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by Johann, Jan 9, 2023.

  1. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    EENI Global Business School.
    EENI University.

    No - it's not your eyes. The sites DO look like 1994.

    This Spanish-domiciled school has been around for 25 years. I've known of it for 17 years or so and it seems not to have been mentioned previously in these pages. This is a "whaddya think?" post, not a recommendation - and I'll try, for once, not to be judgmental.

    The business school is registered as a private school and awards degrees. Don't expect anyone to accord any standing to the degrees. They are not "official" and neither are they "grados propios." They're simply not recognized by Spain's educational authorities. It seems that it's OK, in Spain, for a registered private school to award degrees that are pretty well meaningless, because they have no standing in their own country. The same is allowed in places like Panama and Swiss Cantons. You buy a license and set up shop - legal and unaccredited-or-equivalent.

    Their degrees are pretty cheap. They offer MIB (Master of International Business) and Doctorates in the same field. Fees are under 1000 euros for the year. I don't know if it's the same now, but years ago, one could choose a region for the International component. African countries, Arab Countries, South America - quite a few. When I last looked, there was some language training in those components. I thought that was a great idea.

    A while ago, I looked them over and they had a notice that they were morphing into "EENI University." there is now a separate University page, but it looks like (and is labelled) more of a "Vision" - I don't know how much of the reality is currently in place.

    The University is primarily (not exclusively) intended for Africans and those in other less-developed regions. It has some African accreditation - I don't recall exact specifics but you can find them on the site. Again, fees are low. This post is made for information only. Your call - completely.
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  2. AsianStew

    AsianStew Moderator Staff Member

    Ah yes, thanks for the updated info! I remember them from a few threads, one was just two years ago I think, and another was several years ago. They seem like an option for those just looking to gain extra knowledge, for filling in learning gaps, or keeping up to date with some business trends, and whatever else it may be that interest prospective students in that subject matter.

    I would do a search on this board to review those threads and also research further if the price is right for the specific type of learning you're going for, I think it's a viable option for those wanting to learn more and the price is reasonable, it's not really for those looking to get transferable credits unless you can get an advisable or favorable evaluation...
  3. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

  4. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    In 2020 this school had Burkina Faso accreditation. How good is that here? I have no idea. This is for Africans - not us. See threads. I wouldn't have started this, had I been able to find them yesterday.
  5. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    I'm glad you did. People from all over the world end up viewing this site, even if most never post. Beware of defining "us" too strictly!
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  6. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Point taken, Steve. Thanks!
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  7. Dustin

    Dustin Well-Known Member

    Speaking of Burkina Faso, one of my favorite political leaders is/was Thomas Sankara:
  8. Messdiener

    Messdiener Active Member

    A school incorporated in Spain, claiming accreditation in a second country, catering to students and yet other countries?

    It almost reminds me of our favorite St. Gregory Nazianzen Institute for Eastern Christian Studies in Puerto Rico, which once had Guatemalan accreditation (and later traded for Serbian accreditation) while advertising to anglophone students in North America.

    Different fields of study, similar...arrangements!
  9. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    We've seen similar situations before - e.g. a distance University in the Caribbean, accredited by German authorities, (ACQUIN) and advertising to a pretty wide market. That school is now in the accreditation process with TRACS in the US. Small world.
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  10. Mac Juli

    Mac Juli Well-Known Member

    Yet, somehow, you can still find these degrees on the GAQM website despite... :)
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  11. Johann766

    Johann766 Active Member

    Charisma University is state recognized on their home island unlike EENI which has been unaccredited for 25 years.
    However one thing is notable. If you visit the eneb site at the very end of the website they show the EENI as partner in the training program.
  12. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Given that it's "home island" isn't a country, that doesn't mean a whole lot.
  13. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Right. It was not "accreditation" in our usual sense; it did, however, make operation there completely legal. The German accreditation means quite a bit more, in the academic sense - and TRACS accreditation - which I'm fairly sure will happen - will mean a WHOLE lot more, again. THAT is true "U.S. recognition."

    Yeah, whoever - :( I heard ya! Right - it's not Regional - but it's legit. Recognized US accreditation. For a school that started with none - I think this is a great step. To expect more would be unreasonable. Even well-funded University of the People, under very experienced management , chose NA for their initial accreditation and kept it for quite some years, before their RA application.

    For many schools RA is not a viable option - especially as an initial US option. That's why the NA agencies exist.
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  14. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    And yes - I know National Accreditors have not been problem-free. ACICS is gone and ACCSC's approval is on short-time - 3 years instead of 5 (I think they were lucky Some NACIQI members were calling for a one-year term.) But TRACS and the other majors had approval renewed in 2021 for 5 years. So they must be doing something right...
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  15. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Hmmm...a foreign school with US accreditation from a non-RA agency, licensed by it's non-sovereign territory (but not by it's nation's system).

    We can safely say what good TRACS accreditation will or will not due. (Or, at least, argue about it.) But I wonder if the school's non-US, non-RA status would drag one through the NACES jungle. And, if so, what might be the result?

    Anecdote: When I was full-time with UoP a very long time ago, I had an adjunct with a doctorate from Central European University. At the time, CEU was accredited by the NY Board of Regents. And, as we know, the NY Board of Regents was a recognized accrediting agency, the only state board to have that recognition. Because adjuncts with doctorates were paid more for teaching the same course, I applied to get her doctorate recognized so she could be paid more. UoP denied the application. Foreign school, NA, no.

    I don't know if their stance on NA has changed since then. I do know the foreign status of the school was irrelevant, and foreign degree evaluations were not a thing yet.

    (Just a few months after this, CEU became a candidate for accreditation by Middle States and I was able to get her approved on that basis. One of my last acts as a campus chair.)
  16. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    If a TRACS-accredited degree needed a NACES foreign evaluation (and I don't think that would happen very often) I just can't see how an evaluator could call it ANYTHING but equivalent to a US Nationally Accredited degree - because that's what it IS.

    And I surmise that your UoP anecdote involved UoP people being the judges - not NACES evaluators. Different judges - different decisions. They arbitrarily rated the degree as NA, which it CLEARLY wasn't, thus artificially making the degree insufficient to merit the raise, on their terms. Bad decision, bad people. :(

    I'd think a TRACS degree would be clearly NA - nothing more, nothing less, no matter who reviewed it. No? US-accredited degrees, RA or NA should not need foreign evaluations. They're clearly stamped as to their pedigree. Americans should rely on it. Lord knows, they paid enough for the system!
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  17. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    But that's the point. The more questions involved the more likely you'll find a time and place where it causes problems.

    My attitude has never been "RA or No Way" like some others. I have zero opinion of TRACS, except to recognize its recognition as an accreditor. Coming across a TRACS-accredited school would tell me that it is not a diploma mill. I would be more concerned that it is authorized by a non-sovereign government, and the sovereign government does not grant it recognition. As opposed to the University of the West Indies, which was established to cover British Overseas Territories (including Turks and Caicos). Why TRACS instead of a proper British Charter?

    But maybe I'm a weirdo.
  18. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    (1) Because recognized US accreditation is a very valuable commodity. This was at the right price and attainability points.
    (2) British Charter - I honestly don't know what that would take. Maybe they did - and decided on TRACS.
    (3)And possibly the religious factor made TRACS appealing to some people who run this Uni. I think that might be so.
    (4) Or none of the above.

    I'm pretty sure they had their reasons, Rich. And to me, it's not worth arguing about further. I stand by what I said earlier - TRACS is recognized US NA accreditation. And as such, I believe US schools should accept a degree from a TRACS school for what it is, if an NA degree fits their requirements. And US Foreign Credential Evaluators shouldn't have to bother with it - it's from a US NA-accredited school, so the degree is a known quantity, ipso facto, res ipsa loquitur and all that Latin stuff.

    I don't think there are many reasonable questions, when someone knows (or should know) they're looking at a degree from ANY school ANYWHERE that has bona-fide US National Accreditation, e.g. TRACS. If the sovereign government thing doesn't bother TRACS (and I don't think they're bound by it) then it doesn't bother me. Can't help it if it bothers anyone else. And I don't see why it should.
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  19. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Dang the timer. What I was trying to say is: It (the degree) is from a school granted National Accreditation, by a recognized US accreditor. I know the school is not in the US - but I don't think it matters. The accreditation DOES.
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  20. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    If a school is not accredited (or equivalent) in its own nation, yet seeks it out elsewhere, I think that matters.

    When the University of Leicester had DEAC accreditation, it was a recognized university with a British Charter.

    When UNISA was accredited by DEAC, it was a university that issued degrees listed by the SAQA.

    Central European University is accredited by the Middle States (and the NY Board of Regents). But it is also properly recognized in Austria (issuing what it calls "US and Austrian degrees.")

    I suggest that TRACS accreditation isn't enough. The real question is: Is being located in and licensed by a British Overseas Territory (as opposed to a British Charter) sufficient? Perhaps it is. But the University of the West Indies, set up to serve and support British Overseas Territories in the region (including Turks and Caicos) was established with a British Charter and is a recognized university by the UK. (It is located in Jamaica, established before that nation's independence. But it remains a British university.)
    Perhaps not. The facts are clear. It is reasonable to draw different assessments from them.

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