Any New Online DBA?

Discussion in 'Business and MBA degrees' started by JoshD, Mar 1, 2022.

  1. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

    I can't speak for Rich, but I wouldn't downplay your intellect. I'm sure you could get into traditional Ph.D. or DBA programs if you desire.

    IMO, JU is a better choice than Liberty because of the AACSB accreditation. You should be proud!
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  2. SnafuRacer

    SnafuRacer Active Member

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  3. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    It is not. It was my reaction to so much information about being admitted to a couple of schools that I thought were non-competitive. I thought perhaps I was mistaken, so I asked.
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  4. JoshD

    JoshD Well-Known Member

    Gotcha. I would venture to guess neither program are competitive. Obviously I have no hard facts on that but it is probably a safe bet. :)
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  5. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    Did JU reduce their admissions requirements? They used to require three letters of recommendation, a corporate letter of support, a business-related master's degree (or leveling courses), and seven years in a high leadership position.
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  6. JBjunior

    JBjunior Active Member

    They have conflicting information on their website. From
    • Completed Application
    • Application Fee $50
    • An earned master’s degree from an accredited institution, preferably in the business field
    • Official transcripts from all undergraduate and graduate coursework
    • A statement of purpose explaining the candidate’s professional goals for pursuing the DBA and experience in the English language
    • A curriculum vitae or resume detailing a deep professional understanding of business
    • GRE or GMAT scores, if previously taken
    • Three letters of recommendation
    • Corporate Letter of Support
    • Possible Interview. All candidates must be willing to participate in interview if requested. Video conferencing available.

    The ideal candidate will:

    • Have substantive (7 or more years) executive leadership experience
    • Embraces challenges and is open to change
    • Has a global mindset
    • Enjoys learning, is good with details and technology
    • Be analytical, factual, and renders good judgment
    • Be committed to becoming a better leader for the business, industry, and the community
    From they don't require a master's degree any longer but additional coursework will be required if you don't have one and the "ideal candidate has 7 or more years of high level leadership experience" but it doesn't list it as a requirement on their main page. The main page says letters of recommendation are only required if you have less than a 3.0 GPA.

    It does seem like a very interesting program.
    Last edited: Apr 22, 2022
  7. Dustin

    Dustin Well-Known Member

    I initially bristled at the idea that a program is noncompetitive, but then I reminded myself that non-competitive does not mean non-rigorous. The standards of candidates admitted to the program can be high, and those who are not prepared can (and will) fail. You still have to earn your degree.
  8. freeloader

    freeloader Member

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  9. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    This is not to say those schools are not good because of that fact. Most programs like that have non-competitive admissions.

    And it is not to say that getting in is easy. "Non-competitive" just means those who qualify get in (assuming there is room), and do not compete against each other. But a school can be (a) non-competitive, (b) tough to get into and/or (c) high quality.
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  10. TEKMAN

    TEKMAN Semper Fi!

  11. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

    The curriculum looks similar to their Ph.D. in Organization and Management. Similar concentrations as well.
  12. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    Nice find. The PhD designation is better for those looking for academic careers. Some schools prefer PhDs over DBAs. For professional practice or adjunct work, it makes not much difference. The DBA is supposed to be more practice oriented while the PhD is more academic oriented but in practice, many schools allow applied PhD dissertations or some DBAs do more academic work.
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  13. Jonathan Whatley

    Jonathan Whatley Well-Known Member

    Note that the PhD BA program page mentions SACSCOC but not ACBSP accreditation. If I remember correctly, there was a time lag between Liberty introducing its online DBA and that degree being approved by the ACBSP.
  14. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    Good observation. However, the market might be prospect faculty, most academics jobs call for an AACSB accreditation or just an RA accredited PhD. I have not seen requirements for ACBSP accreditation but might be wrong and some schools might ask for it. I think this school could be fine for those interested in teaching at schools not accredited by AACSB, the supply chain option is good as this field is in demand for teaching purposes. An accounting or finance specialization would be very helpful.
  15. TEKMAN

    TEKMAN Semper Fi!

    Oh, because Liberty University is reserving the programatic accreditation sloth for Ph.D. in Business Administration for AACSB . <--- I am dreaming, :p.
  16. Jonathan Whatley

    Jonathan Whatley Well-Known Member

    I might have seen a business faculty job posting not mentioning ACBSP by name, but mentioning programmatic or specialized accreditation in business (while not specifying AACSB).
  17. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    Maybe, AACSB accreditation is very expensive to achieve and maintain. It requires a certain level of publications that requires funding for faculty and also requires faculty who can publish in good journals and this costs money. It is a bit like the chicken and the egg, for Liberty to get accreditation they would need to charge higher tuition fees so they can hire faculty that can help them to get this accreditation but their main value is low cost. I believe they will stay in their niche market of lower cost school. Not all the universities require AACSB accredited faculty, there are hundreds of jobs that are not filled every year because people are not willing to move to small places or because salaries are not so high, the doctorate can work for some people that are committed.
  18. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    I think it cannot hurt for sure, but because its DBA is ACBSP accredited, the prospect employer would know that this is a school with some quality standards.
  19. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    The way the chicken-and-egg dilemma gets resolved: money.
  20. freeloader

    freeloader Member

    Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

    A complicated and largely self-regulated industry offering egg-chicken prediction default swaps.
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