Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by PhiloScholar, Jun 16, 2009.
Thank you for the compliment!
So FTFaulty it appears that you are continuing to use this forum to spew contempt rather than anything useful. Enjoy yourself!
I'd say that not being Steve Levicoff is a good thing.
I mean, not being a noted DL expert is a good thing? Ummm okay.
Funny thing is, Levicoff's assessment of IUGS is the same as yours. But I enjoy the bickering.
A VERY good thing.
Levicoff it's time for you to go with your utter nonsence.
Kizmet or Bruce I would appreciate your intervention to cease this thread which has been derailed repeatedly by........ . Thanks.
So while Jan is slamming Steve, just wondering how many books on higher ed and DL Jan's written.
Don't bother Jan with verifiable facts, matters not, Jan perceives she's on a roll. You just have to wonder about the psychology; does she actually think she's comporting herself well, using the language with elan rather than using it as the uneducated with an online thesaurus do? Does she really believe she's putting some bona fide DL experts in their places?
Suppose if you really don't know something, you don't know enough to know that you don't know.
I'd have to say that Jan is not the worst example of <etc.> I've seen worse than her.
Like FTF, I've decided to run with the notion that Jan is female. Actually, the only Jan I've been able to think of who was male is Jan Murray, the late comedian and game show host. But his given name was actually Murray Janofsky, so I'll go with the notion that what we have here is a traditionally female name. As I said earlier, not that it matters, but it saves time and band width by not having to constantly say "he or she," etc.
I will also admit that my reading of this entire thread has been cursory, and I'm delighted to hear that Jan is not one of IUGS' advocates. There might be hope for her yet, even though she appers to haave been reduced to one-line retorts and whining to the moderators.
Regarding the notion that this forum is not the class act that it was in the post-AED days, I think that describes the entire internet. Unfortunately, it also describes the world of higher education, which has gone down the tubes in quality as the prices have exponentially gone up. C'est la vie.
What we do have in terms of this forum is a body of resource material that goes to waste because most newbies are too lazy to lurk and use the search function. These days, almost every question that arises on this or any other higher education forum has been asked and answered in the past. People who tend to post for the first time ask questions that lack sufficient detail to provide a good response, and the use of abbreviations instead of full school names presumes that everyone is familiar with every mickey-mouse school out there. But lest I sound like I'm whining, I'll leave things at the point that DI is exactly what it should be in this day and age, and I'm delighted that we have people like Jan around for the sake of entertainment. :smokin:
This thread is like a game of ego billiards.
I can think of Jan Opperman, the late, great sprint car racer and Indy 500 driver from the 70s, Hollywood B-list actor Jan-Michael Vincent, and Swedish table tennis legend Jan-Ove Waldner (and no, I didn't have to google those people, I swear).
It's entertainment, sure, but like going to the carnival back when I was a kid, before they got all politically correct, when they had those bizarre acts and things that made you wonder why anyone would allow themselves to be displayed and frankly humiliated like that for mere money. After a certain point, it's not funny anymore.
This thread is like a game of ego billiards.
Dang, I swear, am surrounded by people more accomplished: better pubs, lots more of them, better academic credentials--some of them Ivies and Ivy-equivalents, full tenured profs and the like (I'm not tenured), and when I go home, there's the hard sciences wife who put me through law school and an MBA by teaching, for five years on the faculty of a Pac12, and so even at home I get the butt rhetorically kicked if I try to cross swords. So don't include my ego in the billiards there, please, as I said, "I know where I am in the scheme of things", and while it's probably a good sight higher in terms of DL and higher ed and accreditation standards than DI's own newbie Jan, it's nonetheless a good sight lower than virtually everyone with whom I come into contact every day of my life (with the exception of students, but of course most of them will go on to biz careers of some success and be able to buy and sell me and come to view me as a quaint old thing from their past).
It's more like a pathetic last grasp effort for certain posters to derive self esteem in a virtual forum that they weren't able to obtain in their actual lives. Truly sad.
I notice that he hasn't contributed much of value in this thread concerning the underlying issues. Most of his posts have been devoted to attacking Jan.
You do? I thought more of you than that.
The reason I made that remark is that Steve Levicoff appears to me to be devoid of compassion. He's fundamentally sadistic, and if he senses that somebody (like Jan) is emotionally defensive, he goes for the throat, hoping to cause the person emotional suffering. Just look at the way that he's been chasing Rich Douglas around for so many years now. It's an obsession and I think that it's bizarre.
This is for you Steve L and the others in need of a laugh:
Hey you kids! Don't make me come over there!
Well I have an AAS.
That's three letters, A,A&S, just like P,h,&D.
That was a really jarring note, Steve. This is the first (and will probably be the only) time when I've felt better-informed on something than Steve Levicoff.
(I swear) I knew a lot of this before I looked it up. First man named Jan I ever heard of was in 1950 at age 7. Field Marshal Jan Smuts of South Africa had just died. I was a kid in London, when his death was announced on the BBC.
"Jan (pronounced Yann or Yaan) is a variant of John in various languages and is a short version of Johannes.
The name is used in Czech, Polish, Belarusian, Dutch, Cornish, Devon dialect, German, Afrikaans, Catalan and Scandinavian languages. The Slovak spelling is Ján"
It's all here, plus a lot more: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_%28name%29
Perhaps it got to me particularly today because I'm immersed in "Poland" by James Michener. More men named Jan than I can count! Anyway - as Steve himself said, "it doesn't really matter."
While gender specificity is still legal...
I believe it's been established that DegreeInfo's very own Jan is male. But if the dongle is a dingle then I will stand corrected.
That would make a lot more sense, all things considered. The Resident Forum Five Minute Google Search Expert is virtually always male in my experience.
Their patron saint is Cliff Clavin.
Separate names with a comma.