Accreditation of OUS Royal Academy of Economics and Business in Switzerland

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  1. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Then why discuss the "paper"? Why go to one of these things and get the "paper."

    It can't be both ways.
     
  2. Elbulk

    Elbulk Active Member

    I was talking about the private sector and how flexible they are compared to the public sector
     
  3. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Okay, but there are tons of examples of people using less-than-wonderful degrees in the public sector, both for employment and for self-promotion. I fail to see the distinction. Could you describe it further?
     
  4. Elbulk

    Elbulk Active Member

    In Nigeria the basic requirement for civil service is your undergraduate degree. A lot of people are already far gone in civil service before they take higher degrees so sometimes it really doesn't impact on their progress in the service.
    Our public sector is quite rigid.
    It's getting better with the independent agencies though.
    Most of the less than wonderful degrees are gotten from brick and mortar schools like schools in Benin Republic which by the way I have a degree from but I also have good experience in my field and I've always a job.
     
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  5. Johann766

    Johann766 Active Member

    To those who are interested in ous royal - I got an email that they are offering a corona discount on their tuition fee of up to 50 percent in some cases.

    So if anyone is interested in ous now might be the time :D

    Ous doesn't get much respect in this forum but personally I recognize that they suceed in keeping this place alive in a country with free state universities and somehow they managed to get cooperation agreements with several reputable institutions.

    Of course this institution stays in the "somehow legit" field but I think it's not a mill neither.

    For me ous is still too expensive for what I could get there so I'll skip it despite the discount:D
     
  6. Mac Juli

    Mac Juli Well-Known Member

    OK, thanks for posting it! However, my opinion about OUS is still:


     
  7. Stephen Michael

    Stephen Michael New Member

    It seems no one here has taken the time to really visit the website of OUS Royal Academy of Economics and Business in Switzerland, which is a pity because they make some stark claims. Now, I do note that everyone has a few points they make, whether about CHEA or other organizations, which may not be relevant if you do the program that is two universities or even three universities.
    So what bothers me about OUS is that the website clearly shows they have partnerships with many universities, https://www.ous.edu.eu/Diplomas/Joint-Dual-Award-Programs, including "The ONLY Academy giving STUDENTS in additional to OUS Diploma a TRIPLE AWARD with WSB University (State University) and Taras University (Public University)".


    Now I believe it would be reasonable that if a university offers a joint program with another university that this program would be promoted on both or all of the websites. After all, I could see the advantage of doing a masters or doctorate if it is endorsed from all 3 universities. That could be invaluable, because then whether OUS is or is not properly accredited would not matter, because one also has the reputation of the Polish and Ukrainian universities. The challenge here is that I cannot confirm on any of the other websites that the other universities actually offer a joint program. I believe I wrote to the Polish University, never heard back, and as I remember I wrote to the Ukrainian University and they said it is not true, at least the person who wrote back to me.

    So, whether it is Studious_Eric or anyone else, it amazes me that no one seems to try to actually reach out to these places and find out if, for example, joint programs actually exist. If Eric was looking for a program, I would have proposed he does the triple award doctorate, 1 degree, supported by multiple universities, because who cares about OUS when you have two other universities involved. Now, if Eric actually investigated, then he would discover, I am sure with a few phone calls and emails that OUS might be lying. Yep, that is the impression I get, they may very well have created this joint degree ficticiously, based on the response I got from the Ukrainian University. If so, then that is worse than any perceived or no accreditation.

    Now, what surprises me if I have not heard anyone speak about good programs that are reasonably priced.

    Whether a PhD in Technology Management --> https://www.indstate.edu/technology/consortphd --> I believe this combines 3 or 4 US universities
    Or a DBA reasonably priced in Europe from BSI or SKEMA or the ones you can find in South Africa

    It seems this forum mainly discusses all the inexpensive questionable universities, rather than focus on inexpensive quality universities. But I believe if someone is going to examine a questionable university, then actually examine it, like I said, if OUS's relationship with the Polish and Ukrainian universities is real, wow, I would consider that doctorate, but if they are lying through their teeth (the impression I am getting), then I would stay the heck away and that to me would be 100x more alarming than whether or not the university is properly accredited, because even an accredited university will at some point lose its accreditation if it was proposing or sponsoring joint degrees that do not exist.



     
  8. Stephen Michael

    Stephen Michael New Member

    Johann, my whole point of my post is that those "cooperation agreements" may all be fake. The email I got back from the Ukrainian University would seem to point to this partnership being fake and the degree not being supported. Now I would love to challenge everyone on here to start doing that kind of research. I would love to challenge you, Johann, to write to or call the Polish and Ukrainian (if that still exists) University and ask them whether there is a joint program. When I researched this a while ago, the Polish University did not offer a doctorate, it seems that they do now, but again, no mention of OUS. So, potentially OUS is a real papermill, meaning you could just print out a joint degree yourself because they may all be fake.
     
  9. Johann766

    Johann766 Active Member

    The Skema DBA is 38000 Euros which is very expensive in my opinion. For that kind of money I could try to enroll at a tuiton free german state university and then hire a Ghostwriter for the Dissertation :D

    I believe that Ous must at some point have had some kind of agreement with these other schools, I believe that in the Ukraine school case there was even someone here on the board that confirmed that via a direct contact to someone who worked at that school in the Ukraine. However since I dont intend to study at ous I will not further investigate here:D
     
  10. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    AND buy a brand new Volkswagen... :)
    The DBA is not a recognized degree in Poland. The Polish University (otherwise a good, recognized school) was required to stop offering it, for that reason.
    Yes - the Memorandum of understanding lapsed, the owner of OUS threw a fit and the Ukrainian school's admin. was sorry to ever have dealt with OUS. It's all here: https://www.degreeinfo.com/index.php?threads/new-mba-offerer-in-barcelona-collaborates-with-english-universities.57481/page-2#post-541592 I think Post 38 says that.

    My take: ONE word for OUS: DON'T! :eek:

    Johann 666 :)
     
  11. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    It's been a l-o-n-g five pages. There is NO VALUE here. Attempts to resuscitate the animal have continually failed. A couple of members seem to be living in hopes that SOME value can be found. It's gone, guys. Where there's life, there's hope. That's not here.

    Johann766: Bitte schlagen Sie das tote Pferd nicht mehr.
    Stephen Michael: Please do not beat the dead horse any more.

    Vielen Dank,
    Thank you very much,

    Johann 666
     

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