Your Presidential Initiatives

Discussion in 'Political Discussions' started by Ian Anderson, Sep 22, 2007.

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  1. Casey

    Casey New Member

    Sure I have. However, I can't think of a situation (at least not off the top of my head) in which one has been used in a criminal case where the conduct occurred entirely outside of the United States. When I hear “long arm”, I think civil procedure and minimum contacts, etc. You could be right, though. If I get a chance, I may run a hypo by some of the other (more seasoned) attorneys at my office.
     
  2. Casey

    Casey New Member

    Well said. My thoughts exactly.
     
  3. JoAnnP38

    JoAnnP38 Member

    1) Address the sky rocketing divorce rate by introducing legislation (DOSA - defense of singleness act) that would outlaw marriage.
    2) Jump start our flagging space program by renting storage on Chinese rockets. (The Chinese have always been better at fireworks anyways.)
    3) Address the poor state of public morals by encouraging local governments to enforce that everyone over the age of 50 wear their pants 6-8 inches below their natural waist.
    4) Move to repair our inner flower child by painting over the Vietnam memorial.
    5) Appoint his holiness, Reverend Jackson to be the ambassador to Iceland.
     
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  4. Susanna

    Susanna New Member

    Sadly, that is so true. But, even if we could change the minds of a few wouldn't that be worth it? Then you saved mother and child.

    Susanna
     
  5. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    The previous posters were acting like changing hearts and minds and political action were two mutually exclusive possibilities. In fact they are not. But if you treat the two as if they were mutually exclusive options, changing hearts and minds without changing the law will likely avail little. What did we have in mind with the "changing hearts and minds" option? If we were thinking of another "just say no" campaign, that'll probably just get laughed at. The "changing hearts and minds" option would likely end up just preaching to the choir.
     
  6. Susanna

    Susanna New Member

    Righto! The law needs to be changed, absolutely, but we should incorporate a "hearts and minds" campaign along with it and not from a pulpit but rather from women who've been there and done that. There is an organization I believe of women who've had an abortion and have come to totally regret that decision. Instead of having Planned Parenthood go to high schools, how about inviting these women to our schools? That's just one idea, I am sure we could come up with many more along those lines.

    Susanna
     
  7. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    As far as changing hearts and minds goes, one observation is worthy of note: women are far less likely to get abortions if their expectant child's father is going to be part of the child's life. Therefore, a man who is against abortion can do one thing: he can decide not to make unwanted offspring (or stay around and own up to his responsibility in the event of a surprise).
     
  8. Susanna

    Susanna New Member

    Hear,Hear!!
     
  9. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    The other thing about the "changing hearts and minds" approach is actually trying to find people who have actually walked their talk. For example, a father who tries to tell his teen-aged or young adult son not to make unwanted babies (or, better yet, to remain a virgin till his wedding night) had best better have done the same himself when he was a young man; otherwise he loses his credibility from the word get-go. :cool:
     
  10. Susanna

    Susanna New Member

    Are you saying with that then that the son is destined to repeat the father's mistakes? What would be the way out of that vicious circle?

    Susanna
     
  11. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    I'm not necessarily saying that the son is destined to repeat his father's mistakes, merely that the son is less likely to listen to the father is the father was less than circumspect himself.
     
  12. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    The son might also rightfully reject the premise that failure to maintain abstinence until marriage is a "mistake".

    -=Steve=-
     

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