What is this about? Civil Lawsuit -Brunson Case on Docket for Supreme Court Conference

Brunson Case on Docket for Supreme Court Conference – Congressional Immunity on Trial

"This Civil Lawsuit was proactively hand-selected by the US Supreme Court in October of 2022, was written and filed by a band of brothers (an actual band of trumpet playing brothers) without attorney representation, and seeks the most historic and consequential judicial remedy in American history."
https://www.ralandbrunson.com/

https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/22-380.html


Not sure what is this all about, and its not on any regular news networks.

 

Pretty easy to see: Home-brew lawsuit by trumpet players without law degrees - or lawyers. Suing for removal from office - Pres. Biden, V.P. Harris and 385 members of Congress for voting not to investigate claims of 2020 "Election Fraud."

Looks like either a publicity stunt or a pilot for a comedy show. Stick to your music, guys. Schitt's Creek this is NOT!

 

I'd figure there might be a penalty for filing / proceeding with this kind of um... unorthodox lawsuit. Trumpets could end up in hock, here. I'd hate to see that, but...

 

Not sure how I'm just seeing this now, but reading that page it says "Petition for a writ of certiorari filed. (Response due November 23, 2022)" and then "Petition DENIED."

It sounds like they petitioned the Supreme Court to hear their case after (presumably) losing in the United States Court of Appeals for the Tenth Circuit and the petition was denied. The lower court's decision stands. At the 10th Circuit, Brunson was appealing the district court's dismissal for lack of jurisdiction. The 10th Circuit affirmed, meaning they did not have jurisdiction. (See: https://www.ca10.uscourts.gov/sites/ca10/files/opinions/010110749788.pdf)

This is a whole lot of nothing.

 

From start to finish. Hopefully we're near the finish.

 

The Big Lie is still kicking. Although the midterms thankfully seemed to put it on life support. There is still many in the MAGA crowd that believes Trumps lies though.

I have a new prediction. Trump will be indicted and lose the Republican nomination. He will run as a third party candidate in order to continue milking the MAGA base for donations. The Republican party will continue to spiral down for at least the next two years.

 

I have a new prediction too, Bill - guaranteed to be accurate - but who knows when? Trump will die at some point. We all do. Then what? How do you think his passing will affect the Republicans' fortunes - in either long or short term? I'm thinking maybe it'll be a Kim Jong Il situation. Lots of (mandatory) mourning and the reins get handed to Donald Jr. - or (gasp!) his brother, Eric. I think it's too misogynistic a clan to hand power to Tiffany or Ivanka. But maybe a nice power-spot in there for Jared K. Your thoughts?

 

I don't think Eric, Jared or Donald Jr. have any chance of carrying on Trump's legacy or popularity. By the time Trump passes away, I think he will have milked the MAGA base for all that they will be willing to give a Trump.

 

Good. NOBODY should have the chance to even try that!

 

My assumption is that after he loses miserably as a third party candidate in the 2024 election his sway over the Republican party will end in a whimper.

The question in my mind is what percent of his core supporter MAGA base will ever realize that they've been had by a con artist. I bounce back and forth between thinking very few and most all. Most all might be a possibility as the Republican establishment is enraged by his third party run and splitting the Republican vote and all turn against him. Very few if the MAGA base faithful just blame it all on the establishment and ignore the establishment's outpouring of outrage. Either way they will consider him a has been loser and no longer send him donations or listen much to his rantings.

 

Oh, who knows. My prediction accuracy percentage runs about zero around here. But I do think Trump can win the GOP nomination in 2024 if the anti-Trump people don't get behind one candidate. There's no obvious sign that they can. DeSantis looks like a winner but so far that's just Florida. A very large part of the country finds DeSantis at least as appalling as Trump himself. Add to that Trump's regular attacks on DeSantis. Hard to see Trump supporters shifting to DeSantis.

 

Will the MAGA followers wake up post-Trump and become normal? Why would anyone expect that? A more logical assumption is that someone else will step up to take his place.

I think of the Winkies, the people in the West of Oz. When Dorothy killed the wicked witch, she and her colleagues feared the Winkies would retaliate. Instead, they celebrated her demise. This ain't that.

Sometimes, a tyrant takes over and wins some popularity among the people. Putin is a good example of that. But when Putin goes, Russians aren't just going to see the light and diminish Russia's threat. They've disproved that once when the Soviets failed. If the people feel imprisoned (like the Winkies or the Czechs), then they feel freed. But if they're down with it all--Russians and MAGAts--they just wait for the next tyrant. And they're certainly not going to join the rest of America in democracy.

 

Agreed, here's what I consider the counter side of that situation though.

The polling seems to indicate that Trump's support is slipping. I assume that trend will continue with hopefully a nice increase in the slipping support rate if/when he is indicted. A Trump indictment should give an excellent common attack topic for the other Republican candidates. An important part of this common attack topic should be hammering on the idea that the indictment means that independents won't ever vote for Trump and so he can't win the general election.

 

Sure but the hard kernel of MAGA voters remains unpursuadable. If there's no cohesive alternative Trump gets it. I'm not looking forward to a Trump/Biden rematch.

 

It is the danger of a wide-open field with no clear front-runner. It's what almost gave us Bernie Sanders in 2020.

 

"Bernie, Bernie...oy, why weren't there a alibi?"-quote from someone, somewhere?

 

Hey, here's an off the wall thought...suppose Biden pardons Trump so that Trump can run and Biden beats him again?

 

That was a most original idea! It would probably be a smart political move. Which makes it even more hilarious (and scary).

 

I would like it if Biden gave Trump a blanket pardon. Like Nixon. No to Trump’s minions, though. Like Nixon. It gets the federal government out of it completely, de-fangs a lot of Republican hate, and leaves it to state-level prosecutors.

Include any potential non-violent crimes in his past, while president, and up to the date of the pardon. Don’t ask him; just do it. How about the day after he’s indicted?