"Washout" Thread

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by Randell1234, Feb 23, 2009.

  1. JoshD

    JoshD Well-Known Member

    Theoretically, yes. However, that is not always the case. It is okay if you do not see the distinction. :)
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  2. Vonnegut

    Vonnegut Well-Known Member

    Can only speak of my optics, but I’ve seen grown up tears in statics classes. In the course I was in, we were referred to reference our undergraduate educations… all of it. I know that I had to order extra books, reference materials, and even referenced kahn academy a few times. While I agree with your theoretical argument, I certainly didn’t experience that, and the historical gate keeping nature of the course, arguably, lends its self to less professor support.
  3. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    That sounds more like a failure on the professor's part, not the learning methodology. And, as we know, failing professors is a rather common phenomenon.
  4. cacoleman1983

    cacoleman1983 Well-Known Member

    I washed out of my Master of Education degree in Secondary Education. I was pushed into that program by my advisor after I had finished my Bachelor of Science degree in Mathematics. I initially wanted to do a Master of Education in Learning Systems Technology and was awarded a Graduate Assistantship on top of the Robert Noyce Scholarship which required 2 years of teaching for every year I received the scholarship. I dropped the program after one semester which meant I needed to teach high school for one year or the scholarship would turn into a loan. I dropped because I realized didn’t like teaching kids and staying in the graduate program longer meant more to pay back.

    I took a four year break from graduate school and during that time taught as an adjunct development mathematics instructor without a Masters for non transferable courses. I believe the scholarship committee used my experience as an adjunct to meet the one year teaching requirement for public schools so I did not have to pay the scholarship that turned to a loan back.

    When I returned to school, I pursued the degree I wanted which was the MEd in Learning Systems Technology and not only was I able to obtain a scholarship each semester but also got the same Graduate Assistantship position I left nearly five years earlier. I also returned to finish within the 7 year limit of graduate credits to use the Secondary Education courses as electives as waiting another year would have resulted in losing those credits done prior to dropping out.
  5. Jonathan Whatley

    Jonathan Whatley Well-Known Member

    Is Kim Kardashian Giving Up On Her Dream Of Becoming A Lawyer? The celebrity's legal career is reportedly 'on pause' due to her other commitments (Staci Zaretsky, Above the Law, February 26, 2024)
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  6. Dustin

    Dustin Well-Known Member

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  7. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    It took her several attempts to pass the Baby Bar. That does not bode well for the Bar Exam itself.

    Statements like this indicate she's actually studying law at a school now:
    Or this:
    Doesn't sound like independent study to me. But, admittedly, I don't know anything about this process.
  8. Jonathan Whatley

    Jonathan Whatley Well-Known Member

    My guess is that she hired tutors who assigned her exams and other work.
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  9. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    I admire this, too. And yes - I've never liked Kim's public persona - But with all the over-publicized unpleasant family goings-on and two decades of media and publicity blather, I haven't the foggiest notion of who she really is. I hope Kim herself does.

    I'm certainly not going to throw shade on her, for giving up. How can I? 63 years ago, I was a University dropout at 18. I think Kim has suffered considerable personal damage from over-hype and over-commitment in her career, and her difficult years of marriage to the ultra-awful Ye. No doubt those factors have diminished her resiliency and emotional resources. I hope she gets them back.

    I wish her well and hope that down the line, she finds something she's passionate about, that fits her individual strong points.
    Last edited: Apr 23, 2024
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  10. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    KK did pass the Baby Bar which is not a small achievement. It makes sense to me that she might mix some classroom or correspondence study to get the remaining time in. Remember that earning a J.D. is not a requirement for taking the California Bar Exam if you aren't attending an accredited school. Passing the First Year exam and studying a total of four years are all the examiners need to see.

    Learning the law isn't easy unless you are some sort of weirdo who thinks it's all REALLY COOL.

    (That would be me...)
  11. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    And she is definitely Doing It the Hard Way.
  12. Tireman 44444

    Tireman 44444 Well-Known Member

    Kim Kardashian West passes California's 'baby bar,' finally - Los Angeles Times (latimes.com)
  13. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    I get how Kim's educational journey might be interesting, but as a newly established Swiftie, I choose to ignore it.

    All that time you were throwin' punches, I was buildin' somethin'
    And I couldn't wait to show you it was real
    Screamed, "fucK you, aIMee" to the night sky as the blood was gushin'
    But I can't forget the way you made me heal
    Everyone knows that my mother is a saintly woman
    But she used to say she wished that you were dead
    I pushed each boulder up the hill
    Your words are still just ringing in my head, ringing in my head
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  14. Jonathan Whatley

    Jonathan Whatley Well-Known Member

    Strong pipeline, Warren Democrat to Swiftie.
  15. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    Still a Warren Democrat.
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  16. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    I don't remember if KK has a Bachelor's degree. She could probably enroll in any California law school, other than the ABA approved schools, and get credit for the first (of four) years. It would be much easier from the studying standpoint (though her celebrity status might be a practical problem.) I hope she does finish and passes the Bar on her first attempt.
  17. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    I don't think she does.
    You are right, I remember thinking that going through some kind of a law school would have been easier. It's not like she is limited by funds or a 9 to 5 job.
  18. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Oh, btw, since we have "Tay Tay", shouldn't it be "Kay Kay"?
  19. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    She doesn't. Kim attended Pierce College but did not graduate.
  20. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    That could mean any of at least three of them.

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