Unaccedited Faculty at Accredited Schools

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  1. Michael Nunn

    Michael Nunn New Member

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    Thanks for the link!
    This is what they have on her credentials:

    Stotlemyer, Diane, BA, Indiana University; MS,
    California State University – Dominguez Hills

    Her bogus doctorate is no longer listed. Her other degrees qualify her to teach undergrad and masters level classes.
     
  2. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator Staff Member

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    Most RA schools require a doctoral degree to teach graduate courses. There have been exceptions, but that's the general rule as I've seen it.
     
  3. little fauss

    little fauss New Member

    I dunno, look again, I think he's of African descent as well as Euopean. But I'm not sure, somebody here know the guy?

    Not that ethnicity matters, not that it should matter. Guess that was my point.
     
  4. GeneralSnus

    GeneralSnus Member

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    That information is also incorrect. I just checked IU's alumni database and Ms. Stottlemyer holds a BGS, not a BA. Granted this could be nit-picking, but if she (or the school) is willing to misrepresent her undergraduate degree, what's holding either back from misrepresenting her master's degree?
     
  5. APerson

    APerson New Member

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    That’s interesting. Ms. Stottlemyer also appears as a “technical reviewer” for the book “Debugging ASP.NET” (published Oct 2001) which states that she works for Capella University. One copy of the book lists her on page 10 but doesn’t contain her complete bio. You can review her complete bio Amazon by going to the book and then taking a “look inside this book” Her bio there shows that she holds a “masters and a Ph.D. in computer science from Lacrosse University.” Lacrosse is a diploma mill. For Capella to allow her to teach there for five years is fraud.
     
  6. Michael Nunn

    Michael Nunn New Member

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    Now you got me interested in this case. I looked her up and found that she has been teaching at Franklin University since 2001. Their old catalog listed a BS from Indiana University. The 2006 catalog for that school now says she has a BGS. Her Lacrosse degrees are gone. Strangely enough, she is still working there!
    http://www.franklin.edu/FacultyPages/stottlemyerdia

    What is about these schools that they want to keep someone with unrealiable credentials?
     
  7. simon

    simon New Member


    Interesting discussion.

    However this is not as straightforward an issue as noted above. For instance in todays Wall Street Journal there is an article about a number of caucasian professors at Northern Arizonia University who were screwed out of significant salary increases over a period of years due to the University president's belief that there were salary inequities that favored these men over women and minorities. In fact these caucasian faculty were earning on an average of $87 a year more than their minority peers but these same minority faculty and females were awarded raises amounting to thousands of dollars a year! The caucasian professors sued and won over a million dollars in compensation.

    http://www.opinionjournal.com/taste/?id=110008521

    The lesson? There are no general rules as to which groups, whites, blacks, women, etc, have advantages over the other within the context of academia. Perhaps in years past white academicians did hold this advantage but this no longer the case.
     
  8. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator Staff Member

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    Capella has kept her in the face of much criticism, and now we find she's taught at Franklin for 5 years. I'm starting to think she has compromising pictures of influential people, because I can't think why else she would be a college instructor with just a B.G.S. degree (not that there's anything wrong with a B.G.S. degree).
     
  9. APerson

    APerson New Member

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    Stottlemyer also has a book listed on Amazon that received some pretty bad reviews. Interestingly, someone by the name of Kurt Linberg "dr kurt" gave it a glowing review even though most others panned it. Linberg’s review notes that he is from Minnesota where Capella is located. Linberg turns out to be Capella’s Dean of the School of Business and Technology. Wonder what Stottlemyer has over him?

    Does Franklin mention her degrees?
     
  10. APerson

    APerson New Member

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    Her degrees aren't listed on the link you provided. Did Franklin remove them?
     
  11. simon

    simon New Member

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    It appears that this situation is not unusual for Capella. There have been other faculty with questionable doctorates such as Norman Pearson (who previously taught at Walden, Greenwich and now at Greenleaf) who have taught at Capella with full support of the senior administration.
     
  12. GME

    GME New Member

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    Indeed a masters can get you a teaching gig in a masters program, but usually as an adjunct. It is my understanding that accreditors tend to look at the phd/ma balance for grad programs, so landing a job can be a challenge (though technically possible).

    In my own grad psychology masters program we use a lot of adjuncts, virtually all licensed therapists. We favor doctoral instructors (with no differentiation between phd and psyd) but still hire a few masters level instructors (although usually on the basis of significant post masters training or specialized knowledge). All arewith regionally accredited degrees. We require that they have their school send us a transcript of their highest degree. If the masters level instructor also has a non-accredited phd/psyd (not terribly unusual in Los Angeles where there are several psychoanalytic institutions and california approved grad schools) they cannot list in in their bio or reference it on syllabi.

    Finally, re: BA vs BGS. There may be a more innocent explanation for this. Many folk who actually input bios are pretty sloppy and don't have a particularly good understanding of -anything- out of the ordinary. A BGS could very easily morph into a BA or BS.


    Regards,
    GME
     
  13. GeneralSnus

    GeneralSnus Member

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    I agree with you on this point, but still feel that a faculty member has the duty to see that the error was corrected, same as if a faculty member held a DBA and the bio listed a PhD in Business Administration.
     
  14. APerson

    APerson New Member

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    Exactly. Diane Stottlemyer has made numerous claims to her bogus masters and Ph.D. in the past. An ethical person wouldn't have done that to begin with. Based upon that fact, it's not unreasonable to expect that Capella University would go to extreme efforts to make sure that her current bio is correct (especially since Stottlemyer has taught there since 2001 or earlier).
     
  15. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    If the position is obtained based on a RA Masters degree, followed by a non-accredited doctoral degree, then I see no legal problem. However, I would question why the holder would want to announce his unaccredited doctoral degree. Thus, the question is: Did he obtain his job based upon holding a RA masters degre or an unaccredited Doctoral degree? Pray tell?
     
  16. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

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    As soon as I tell people that I'm pursuing a doctoral degree, they automatically assume that it is a "PhD" even though I never made such a statement. It is as if a PhD is the only sort of doctoral degree on the market. It is a semantic difference.

    Doctoral does not = PhD :eek:

    PhD was invented in Germany in the 1800s and is not an end all to a be all. :eek: The term PhD has only been around for a couple of hundred years. It's not a means to and end!!!

    I could correct each and every misguided soul, but, instead, I let it slide. :eek:

    IMO a DBA is better then a PhD because a DBA is more oriented towards a practical solution. But if I apply to a college to teach, then does it really matter what kind of doctorate I have, as long as it meets their needs? No!!! :eek:
     
  17. Michael Nunn

    Michael Nunn New Member

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    APerson,

    I have nothing against Capella or Franklin University but it doesn't make sense for a school to risk their reputation by keeping someone with questionable credentials like Diane Stottlemyer. I think that the school would improve its image if it got rid of her and the people that keep her there.
     
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  18. APerson

    APerson New Member

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    I would have to agree. It's puzzling that they (Franklin and Capella) keep her on. In fact, it’s embarrassing.
     
  19. Michael Nunn

    Michael Nunn New Member

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    I also agree with Bruce. This lady must have very strong connections with a lot of influential people. I just hope that these schools will one day come to their senses and realize what a liability she is turning out to be.
     
  20. Kalos

    Kalos member

    "Voluntary" Accreditation in Britain ??

    Warnborough "University" is based in Britain, though its commercial charter is Irish. In Britain, "accreditation" of universities - with two ancient exceptions - it is given by Royal Charter or by Act of Parliament and is not a "voluntary" process. Warnborough is not authorized to grant degrees in Britain. Neither is Warnborough chartered by Irish authorities to grand degrees. Warnborough is thoroughly bogus - a fraud.

    Apparently not all of us...
     

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