UK Student Visa

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  1. TEKMAN

    TEKMAN Semper Fi!

    Hi Everyone,

    I am trying to weight pro/con for obtaining a UK student visa. What are the benefits for obtaining a UK student visa for limited residency program? Would it help for landing a job in the UK in the future? So far I could not find the benefit because, for American, I just visit the campus for a week and two modules on-campus studies at Imperial College. The only thing I see is the con; which I have to pay about $400.00 for the processing fees.

    Thanks!
     
  2. JoshD

    JoshD Active Member

    I know essentially nothing about visas to other countries. Would it be similar to the US if the degree program is STEM and OPT you get a set period of time post-graduation? Do you get to be involved in recruiting at Imperial?
     
  3. AlK11

    AlK11 Active Member

    I don't see any pros. You wouldn't be able to work with a student visa so I don't think it would help with hiring. As am American I think you can spend 3 months in the UK visa free which should be enough to do whatever you need to do.
     
  4. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Do you need a visa to go to the UK? I was able to travel to campus on my passport, but those were for short periods. Check with the UK Embassy or a consulate near you. They'll know immediately.

    I never felt the urge to find employment in the UK. High cost of living and very low wages were what I found, but YMMV.
     
  5. JBjunior

    JBjunior Active Member

    I just moved to the UK, no visa required for stays less than six months for many reasons including study.
     
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  6. TEKMAN

    TEKMAN Semper Fi!

    I don't think I will be involved with recruiting at Imperial. My goal to land an executive position at one of Fortune 500 companies; even American companies with corporate office in London likes my current employer.

    Because of one week's induction, one intentional immersion week, and two modules on campus can be done in 90 days; so, there is no benefits for having a UK student visa. I am wondering if I have a record of studying in the UK through the Government, it is easy for future companies in the UK would consider me for employment.

    Americans can be in the UK for 90 days at the time without UK visa...just American passport. My current CIO is the UK, he makes million $$$; I don't mind to replace him and move to the UK. :D
     
  7. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

    False. You can work 20 hours per week on a Tier-4 student visa (same in the U.S.). https://www.internationalstudents.cam.ac.uk/tier-4-responsibilities/working-tier-4-visa#:~:text=A Tier 4 visa issued,averaged over a longer period.

    You can also work full-time for up to two years post completion of your studies.

    UK announces 2-year post-study work visa for international students
    "The new ‘Graduate’ route will be open to all international students – including those from India – who have valid UK immigration status as a student and have successfully completed a course of study in any subject at undergraduate level or above at an approved UK Higher Education Provider. The visa will allow eligible students to work, or look for work, in any career or position of their choice, for two years after completing their studies."

    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-announces-2-year-post-study-work-visa-for-international-students

    This could work.

    Correct. You can visit the UK visa-free with your U.S. passport for up to 6 months. So, that may be sufficient for your residencies.

    This might fit:

    If you come for other business or academic activities
    You can stay in the UK for up to 6 months without a visa, but you can only do certain academic or business-related activities, eg:

    • go to a conference, meeting or training
    • take part in a specific sports-related event
    • perform as an artist, entertainer or musician
    • do academic research or accompany students on a study abroad programme
    Check if you need a visa: https://www.gov.uk/check-uk-visa

    I watch a lot of UK Border Force episodes, so I know a lot about the UK immigration process.
     
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  8. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly

    Do they even offer one? I don't know how the UK works, but U.S. universities can't issue an I-20 for distance learning programs, including programs that have short residencies.
     
  9. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

    I used to believe that too but Cal U says otherwise about their online Doctor of Criminal Justice: International Criminal Justice Practitioners and Academics Now Welcome to Apply! (Note: We are now authorized by U.S. government to issue visas for the program).

    https://www.calu.edu/academics/graduate/doctoral/criminal-justice/index.aspx
     
  10. nomaduser

    nomaduser Active Member

    This is true. U.S. universities can't issue I-20, student VISA for online programs.
    I think this will be the case in U.K. too. You have to ask school first to check if they can issue you a student VISA.
    I'm not sure if you're allowed to take their courses while on a tourist VISA.

    Can foreigners take courses at U.S. universities while they're on a tourist VISA? no, I don't think that's legal. They should obtain a student VISA first. But if they're online students, schools can't give them I-20.
     
  11. JoshD

    JoshD Active Member

    Chris just shared an online program that allows a VISA at Cal U.
     
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  12. nomaduser

    nomaduser Active Member

    Right, but not every universities can do this.
    You have to check with your university first.
     
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    nomaduser Active Member

  14. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

    Well, that program does not have a residency requirement. So, what would be the reason for wanting an F-1 visa?

    University of the Cumberlands provides F-1 visas for their executive programs with residencies, e.g., DBA, Ph.D. https://www.ucumberlands.edu/academics/graduate/programs/executive-phd-leadership/admission-requirements

    The Chicago School of Professional Psychology also provides visas for low-residency programs. https://my.thechicagoschool.edu/community/studentresources/ie/Documents/Int'l Student forms/TCSPP Low-Residency Details for International Students.pdf
     
  15. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly

    I don't know about the other schools listed, but Cumberlands can offer F-1 status for their executive programs because they require enough time in the classroom. If I recall correctly, they offer have a full load of courses on weekends so that students can shuttle back and forth from wherever they live to Cincinnati (I believe that's where they put that center).
     
  16. TEKMAN

    TEKMAN Semper Fi!

    I was told they do; however, the VISA for this round is slower because nobody is traveling to the UK this fall for studies...according to the Imperial College admission committee.

    When I started a Ph.D. at Capella University in 2009; one of my classmates was Russian, she lived and worked in Dubai. Her student VISA was rejected, they advised her to apply for a business VISA.
     
  17. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    I watched every Law and Order episode, so I know all about being a NYPD Detective. :) I'm applying next week. One Police Plaza - here I come!
     
  18. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

    Good for you. Why even travel to NY? Just let them swear you in virtually and you can also serve virtually!
     
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  19. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Well -- as long as I don't get paid virtually....
    Anyhow - I've got a backup plan if there's a hiring freeze on detectives. I also watched seasons of ER years ago - so maybe I could be Chief of Surgery somewhere... :)
     
  20. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    This flies in the face of everything I know about how F1 visa works. Unless something changed, F1-eligible students MUST take 12 semester hours in the Fall and Spring (assuming semester-based), 9 graduate - and only 3 can be fully online. Cumberlands goes around it by creative scheduling of weekend classes, and while legal, some of the similar CPT mills did get in trouble with USCIS. Some schools was closed by authorities, and in one case the owner got convicted of fraud (to be fair, these were unaccredited - and at least in TriValley case did have fake records and classes).
     

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