Trumpian daydream

Discussion in 'Political Discussions' started by nosborne48, Mar 19, 2023.

  1. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    They both were seen in the company of prostitutes, albeit for different reasons.
  2. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    I don't think you folks are grasping the sheer size of the grift. You wonder how an amoral montebank could become President? I can tell you in two words: he listened. Yes, he did, and he fed the rage day after day with a cunning mixture of lies and some basic truth.

    Tell me...what did we get from HRC? The "basket of deplorables" comment. From Obama? "Guns God and Gays." I cannot imagine comments better crafted to show that the Democratic Party elites not only have no sympathy for the victims of globalization and Wall Street cronyism but have contempt for those victims.

    Autocrats have used this technique repeatedly throughout history because it works.
  3. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Trump feeding a crowd with two loaves of bread? (Sure, two Big Macs....)
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  4. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    I'm going to come to Mary Magdalene's defense here. I think that prostitute business was created later on so as to diminish her role because she was a woman. I suspect instead that she was an apostle, not some groupie.
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  5. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    LOL! This is a mic drop comment if I ever saw one!
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  6. Rachel83az

    Rachel83az Well-Known Member

    IIRC, aren't there three women that get conflated with Mary Magdalene? Mary Magdaline herself, a prostitute, and the woman who washed Jesus' feet?
  7. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    You can blame the Pope for that. Not the current Pope, Francis 1, of course.

    "The portrayal of Mary Magdalene as a prostitute began in 591, when Pope Gregory I conflated Mary Magdalene, who was introduced in Luke 8:2, with Mary of Bethany (Luke 10:39) and the unnamed "sinful woman" who anointed Jesus's feet in Luke 7:36–50. Pope Gregory's Easter sermon resulted in a widespread belief that Mary Magdalene was a repentant prostitute or promiscuous woman"

    Whole thing here:

    Not QUITE as crazy as conflating Trump with Jesus. But bad enough.
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  8. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    I agree! There were others, though.
  9. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    I'm more into getting a laugh than worry too much about the historical accuracy of the joke. But I appreciate that other fine folks might have a different view on that.
  10. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Speaking as a former broadcast technician...please don't drop the mike.
  11. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    I don't buy the "let's blame a Democrat" game (which, in 80% of the cases, is "let's blame Hillary"). Here is the full quote:
    What she says pretty much checks out. In fact, the pafrt that is ALWAYS cut off is exactly what you are saying. If someone decides to identify with "racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic" crowd and get all offended on their behalf - I'm all for it. GOP predictably get out to spin the most out of this comment, but it was the supposedly "liberal" corporate media who instead of calling out the manipulators wrote thousands of thoughtful drivel on how Hillary "failed to connect with the voters". Giving people cover to vote for a fascist.

    I also don't think being a "victim of globalization" gives one a total absolution. The scores of people who used to vote for cartoonishly corrupt pro-Russian politicians in Ukraine were, in many ways, victims of globalization. Doesn't mean that they didn't in effect aided and abetted the current genocidal war. Likewise, people in Weimar Germany were pushed to support a certain demagogue because of scores of very real issues. We now call all these people "Nazis", no matter their contemporary excuses.

    Also: Trump "listened"? B#ch please.
  12. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    I saw this as this, which is probably for the best.

  13. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    This works.
  14. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    I'm not absolving anyone. Whether the Trump Base really are victims isn’t the point. Their perception of being victims is what Trump played to.
  15. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    But your experience of flyover America seems quite different from my own. The rage I describe was very real.
  16. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    Was real in Weimar Germany, too. More so. They even had the radical leftist threat (real one, not Faux Neuz fabrication). I am still comfortable calling them Nazi, because that what they technically were.

    I am not proposing any solutions here. Hillary bashing is getting really old, though. Especially from the Democrats.
  17. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

  18. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    My own experience of MAGA is not flyover America, but rather backwater Southern Texas. Where I live, the vast majority is very Republican, so there are flags and beach-buggy parades and all that jazz. The kicker is, everyone in these parades can afford a dwelling here, in a nice beach community that is Corpus Christi's second most affluent. So how do you experience "economic anxiety" while being able to afford a house on the Island? This leaves me skeptical of the whole concept.
    On the other hand, some of these people watch #ucker Carlson on the regular. This could lead to brain damage that actually would explain a lot.
  19. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    I think you are right; there is no evidence in the Gospels that Mary Magdalene had anything to do with the other two. And yes, Mary Magdalene, one of the three women who received the news of Resurrection and brought it to Apostles, could have had higher profile (in my opinion). I believe she is the most-mentioned woman in all of the Gospels, second to The Most Holy Mary the Mother of God.

    To be fair, I don't think Mary of Bethany and Mary Magdalene are still conflated.
  20. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    As a Coastal Elite™, I promise you this is part of the country we wave at from above on our way to the other coast.

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