Trump supporters are not welcome on our campus

I thought Scorsese was channelling Tim Burton when I saw that.

 

Of course racism and misogyny exist, they're just not lurking around every corner as the left seems to believe.

"Global warming" is the biggest hoax ever perpetuated on the American people, despite what Al Gore says from his house that uses 21X more energy than the average American.

Pointing out the obvious is now scapegoating?

I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

Do things LEGALLY, and you have nothing to worry about.

Imagine that?

"Not familiar" is an understatement of epic proportions. You shouldn't even mention the Scots and Irish in the same breath; if my grandparents were alive, they'd lay a beating into you, grandmothers included, for even saying that.

My paternal grandfather was a WWI veteran of the British Army who worked as a shipfitter in Port Glasgow, Scotland. He answered an advertisement looking for skilled shipfitters, and came here LEGALLY with a job at the Bethlehem Steel shipyard waiting for him. My maternal grandfather was a tool & die maker who came here with a job at Submarine Signal (later bought out by Raytheon) waiting for him. Neither of them ever took a penny of government money, other than Social Security after they retired.

And yet, he suddenly reached for an area where many people carry guns.

Sorry for what, pushing a false narrative?

Where is the evidence? When can we expect to see the evidence?

Ah, yes, he was blue, right?

Classic liberal talking point; when the narrative doesn't fit, just move the goalposts.

So you admit that the police do a far better job than deputized civilians could ever do?

Then maybe you should shut-up the next time you want to criticize the police after a deadly force incident until you know what you're talking about?

BTW, medical malpractice kills far more people every year than police officers do.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2016/05/03/researchers-medical-errors-now-third-leading-cause-of-death-in-united-states/?utm_term=.386535c2d497

When can I expect you to go on the offensive against the American Medical Association?

 

Or something further north: https://www.fraserinstitute.org/studies/leaving-canada-for-medical-care-2017 https://www.fraserinstitute.org/studies/price-of-public-health-care-insurance-2017-edition

Could those economists be...immigrants?

 

I am a former law enforcement officer, and from my current vantage point outside that profession can state that what Bruce is reporting parallels my experience. From the moment I entered the academy, I was subjected to people’s uninformed but confident views of everything I did, and found that the media, which I had respected growing up, would deliberately misrepresent facts in order to create ratings by portraying us negatively. I found a great deal of satisfaction in that career despite these factors, but they were definitely real and definitely unpleasant.

“No you’re not?” Of course someone named Bruce Tait is a Scot. If your rather opaque comment isn’t denying he’s Scottish, it sounds like some kind of veiled insult to Scottish-American immigrants - would you care to explain it?

Helpful the Jacobite

 

I'm glad to hear that Mr Lanza stepped down following his appalling statements. How refreshing that there were enough people who believed in freedom of thought at UCF to render his position untenable.

I do find an apology for "the lack of clarity in his comments and the issues this has produced" a repellent non-apology.

 

Dude, of course it does, and of course they are. You know what? they come with being a public official of substantial authority in a democratic society. Not pleasant. But necessary. I know a regular cop does not feel all that empowered - but he is from a civilian's point of view. Similarly, I have very little power as a lowly tax office employee - but the public does not see it that way.

Look at it from a civilian's standpoint. Bruce just casually mentions police culture is "closed and secretive", and provided a justification. But from the other side, I see a brotherhood of armed, trained, and uniformed people, who have interesting practices like "civil forfeiture", who are predominantly male, predominantly Conservative (that one may be Liberal's fault, actually) - and have "closed and secretive culture". Tell me I'm not justified in being at least a little uneasy. Of course, vast majority of cops are also American patriots with healthy respect for values and norms of a democratic society - that's why you have proper law enforcement and not a junta. But imagine a political demagogue who's openly dismissive of such norms and panders to policeman's pet peeves?

This is not intended as a smug Canadian rant, by the way. Canadian cops are more politically diverse (plenty of Liberals), but just as "closed and secretive", and have much better pull with political establishment. So we see RCMP scandals where no one is substantially punished all the time; arguably accountability is worse than in America.

 

Yeah, that sentence was ambiguous. I meant "not an immigrant", not aware of that experience. It's not intended as an insult. I, on the other hand, am an immigrant - albeit one who had a pretty easy path, all things considered. And also L E G A L.

 

Good enough. I happen to think they are pretty common, actually - in "mild" forms. Again, America is actually better than global average in both, and has a good chance to continue improving, but still.

It looks pretty convincing to people of Nauru, actually. I think America is an exceptional country, but thinking all global problems are about you is cute. Curiously, hard left types exhibit a variation of this - all evils in the world come from America. I tried to read Noam Chomsky's book (a birthday gift) on foreign policy once, and this got old fast. Even minds of his caliber fall for this perverted US-centrism.

Are you trying to say Judge Curiel is really biased because he's "Mexican"? Nope; Trump had absolutely no justification in dropping this stereotype on him.

Way ahead of you. I got five different visas to US and complied with their conditions to a T. Of course, American visa law works on "streams" and which legal avenue (if any) is available to any given individual is highly, highly variable. And complicated. So I appreciate your advice, but note that you're a birthright citizen and do not actually know what you're talking about.

That statement... is rather easy to misinterpret. Tribal pride much? Either way - both groups are mainstream in America now, but at least one was not always so.

In short, an experience broadly similar to first and second wave Ukrainian immigrants, be they Manitoba farmers or New Jersey miners. Except that it's actually easier when a job waits for you, and they were English speakers. Not unlike an Indian H1B today.

So in short, THEY knew what immigrants (well, maybe not Irish immigrants) went through, back in the day. You did not have these challenges, as I'm sure my children will not have.

He was reaching for his wallet. The policeman is already acquitted - do we need to continue to place blame on a guy who died?

Back in the day, it was Conservatives who had face in American intelligence services. Far fringes of the Left (like Communist Party USA) were Kremlin patsies and, in some cases, spies. Now, roles reversed. (To be fair, many leftist moonbats like Jill Stein are still Putin patsies).
Not even going into that intelligence report, isn't it obvious that Wikileaks and Snowden are Russian propaganda assets? What kind of "evidence" are you looking for?

He was human, subject to same biases as everyone else. You're a Psychology major, right?

Oh, so you don't accept criticism outside of your own guild? That's what I'm talking about.

AMA is a necessary institution. But, seeing as it is effectively a cartel, I would not be surprised if it does deserve serious criticism. Which would be completely off topic here.

 

And that was my point in mentioning that now I am looking on from a civilian standpoint. I like to think I have an informed perspective based on over a decade of law enforcement in California, but have changed professions for more than another decade, and now live thousands of miles from those old friends. Both my old and new homes have examples of genuine police misconduct as opposed to media-driven kerfuffles, but they are thankfully rare, and knowing the pressures they are under to make decisions instantly, I am careful about passing hasty judgments.

 

Really????

 

Horrid thought. Mob rule.

Most doubtful. Our own Officer Friendly, Bruce, is a union rep.

 

There's a subtle difference between "mob rule" and "democratic society". Can't believe I'm telling you this from one of Her Majesty's realms. :usa1:

More than one way to be to the right of the population.
(again, it's a problem not an accusation. It's not Bruce's fault liberal hippies are not keen to joining the police, but it does, seemingly, create a worrying disbalance).

 

That's not exactly a typical civilian perspective (although a welcome one).
Thankfully, instances of police misconduct (and "media kerfufles") are rare; the world would look different otherwise (although it looks like it does look different to some communities). It doesn't mean these are not worrying. And the LE community seems to circle the wagons each time.

 

Did you seek a vote on posting that?

 

No, why? Are you operating with some exotic definition of "democratic society"?

 

No. Have you some erotic definition of 'democratic society'?