Discussion in 'Political Discussions' started by Bill Huffman, Nov 7, 2020.
I'm aware. I'm talking about what should be, not what is.
There shouldn't be. There's no reason a PPO wouldn't do just fine for them.
TRICARE, which replaced CHAMPUS, is used by not just retired military, but many active duty military members and families. My son, while on active duty, had several knee surgeries performed by private-sector physicians, paid for by TRICARE.
Extending TRICARE to veterans might just address the whole issue, and do it for a lot less than maintaining a health care system with tens of thousands of employees, hundreds of locations, etc.
This is demonstrably not true. The vast majority of government works just fine and serves the people well. Tropes about inefficiency, employee laziness, and the like are incredibly exaggerated and tremendously insulting.
By the way, Donald Trump--the subject of this discussion thread--wasn't restored to the presidency today. He's on a heckuva roll there.
How many federal entities has you had the pleasure of serving with that your using to draw this conclusion?
Six. More than 30 years, plus several more as a federal contractor.
That beats me. 3 and 12 years. You must have worked for better agencies than I have. What I've found are employees are beaten down by bureaucratic process, and ultimately lose drive and effectiveness. But that is just my experience.
Oh, there's a lot of that, of course. But not incredibly more compared to the private sector.
By the way, if you're a citizen of this country, you want the bureaucracy. Terms like "bureaucracy" and "red tape" slant the story. In reality, citizens are best served by bureaucratic systems that can create repeatable and reliable successes. We hear about the VA or the Election Commission, but there are a lot of really good agencies doing really good work by engaged employees.
My wive is a government employee.
Like in any place where workers are protected by unions, there are heroes really good devoted employees and there are those who sleep all day and do nothing, staying there for the pension, take hours long lunches etc.
If you are really devoted and trying to do a good job, a lot of times with supervisors if you are lucky to get a good one, the kind that support and follow the guidelines etc, if you are out of luck then they simply approve everything as long as its quiet, trying to make a participant accountable is impossible, they abuse the system to the maximum, getting money, benefits etc.
No matter if persons deserves money and benefits or not.
Many employees from new to top leaders volunteered during COVID and risked their lives.
Based on what I hear from my wife and her friends co workers most are devoted employees and doing great job, way and beyond expected, they really care.
Wives best friend is an IRS agent, she been there for 15 years now, got promotions and a lot of training. I hear only good things about her work.
My past projects at DoD, IRS, INS (old name) and other State level agencies all had good experiences of professional and professionally run environments.
This betrays a skewed perspective while offering absolutely no proof that this is sufficiently routine enough to allow the stereotype to stand.
Please prove your point because it simply does not stand on its own.
Without a doubt, there are some who are. In fact, I’ll bet you can find overpaid, privileged and lazy people in just about any occupation.
What I communicated is what for many years I hear. I never seen it in my own eyes. But being surrounded with gov employees, I hear about things.
I can prove any of it.
Many government jobs are stable, its one of the reasons people are attracted to such jobs.
On some of this jobs to fire a worker there has to be proof of an employee being incapable or simply not doing his job functions. Not doing something well isn’t enough, so there’s a long process of documentation that can take years. Since there are no consequences, there’s no downside to slacking off.
Maybe stability allows some people to slack off and be lazy at work because they know there will only be minor consequences?
My personal opinion I see such as minority among gov employees.
"Some" is a very vague concept.
Perhaps there are studies that show a correlation between union membership and a lack of productivity. Perhaps not. I'm looking forward to your proof.
Whoops typo,honestly I meant to type I can't prove any of it.
I thought that what I typed, just saw, maybe spellchecker corrected.
I can't prove any of it. Its all hear say gossip from people around me and assumptions from
reading articles related to this in the past.
Got it. Thanks.
President Trump failed because of his buffoonery and failure to expand his base to moderates and independents.
I agree his sole focus on his base of supporters meant he never expanded his base. What he did was an amazing job at getting those folks out to vote. They voted in droves. He got more votes in 2020 than he did in 2016. Unfortunately for him his "buffoonery" charged up the anti-Trump vote and got them to vote in even larger numbers.
The scary thing about it was that if if it weren't for the pandemic, I believe that Trump would have won reelection. My wife is a moderate Republican. She was planning on voting for him despite his buffoonery until he started killing Americans with his Covid-19 antics. She was even prepared to forgive him for killing all those Americans if after he'd gotten Covid-19 he'd just apologized for his past behavior and started following the science. When he was in the hospital I told her that would never happen. She said, "Well, we'll see. If he does that then I'm voting for him."
I like a lot of his policies. If he would have simply used his press office he would have avoided a lot of trouble.
He was right about deregulation. And he was right about getting out of Afghanistan. But I can't really think of anything else. Normally I'm a fan of tax cuts, but when they lead to more borrowing rather than spending cuts that's irresponsible. His trade policy was economically illiterate. His immigration policy was both economically illiterate and hateful. He'll go down in history as a bottom tier president, and he has it coming.
A word in favor of the Tax Code changes (if not the cuts)? I agree completely with the elimination of all those personal deductions and exemptions in favor of a single set of standard deductions that depend on filing status (and blindness and age). I think Congress should have gone even further in this regard.
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