Tripp Bible Institute

I apologize if my comments seem like they were a personal attack in nature. I must take issue with you as a moderator. The role of a moderator is to be objective. You neglected to point out the post that was directed toward me that was questioning my intelligence. You can also sense from your comment which side you lean toward, even though you state you aren't taking sides. You conveniently quote me, but not the other person. That's unfair.

 

Don't take stuff personally. MC wasn't specifically calling you out.

 

Ditto Randall (re potpourri) and happy motoring Dr. Levicoff ... :icon16:

 

By the way, Lord Levicoff is the authority on religious degree mills, as he is the author of Name It, Frame It.

 

Lord Levicoff: Is there a way of obtaining Name It Frame It and Where the TRACS Stop Short?

 

It is traditional that one should post the website address of the school when you're asking about it. Divinity, Ministry, Theology Degrees by Mail - Welcome

 

It appears that relatively limited numbers of these books were printed, and they are apparently now considered collectible and valuable.

For example, there are currently two used-book sellers on amazon offering old copies of "When the TRACS Stop Short". One is charging $336.09, the other is charging $700. Shipping is $3.99 extra.

 

It may be a very minor aspect of this discussion but in fact it's not true, at least not on this board. The Mods enforce the TOS, take out the garbage (spammers), annoy the shills and hopefully we do so in a fairly balanced manner . . . but objectivity is not on the list. There have been and will continue to be many occasions where we express our own opinions. A relevant example is that I believe that the loophole that allows religious institutions to remain forever unaccredited all the while granting degrees is really just a cover for lack of rigor in their programs. Now I do not believe that this is true of all religious, degree granting institutions but I believe it to be true of many. This is my opinion and I do not pretend to have facts to back it up. I think these facts could be obtained and I believe that Steve has done some of this in his book. As for Tripp, I haven't even bothered to look at the school or its programs but I trust the people that have looked at it and have declared it to be un-wonderful.

 

What a masterful strategy! I'm going Dr. Levicoff one better! When my book comes out there will only be one copy (certified) -- and one l-o-n-g
e-auction. :smile:

 

Lord Levicoff...are you serious?

 

I strive to be respectful as much as possible. I was upset in the sense when someone treats me like I'm a little kid or that I have no clue when it comes to what I'm talking about.

Steve Levicoff doubted that I had any accredited schools that accepted work from Tripp Bible Institute. For him (Steve Levicoff) to call Tripp Bible Institute a mill is plain wrong in my opinion as it does require work. As another poster stated I'm not surprised he would say the same about NationsUniversity. He does so based upon is so called reference guide that he has written.

Not only does he challenge my intelligence but also says because he has 3 RA degrees that somehow he is better and so forth. I simply asked him a question to give an example as to how it was a mill. La Salle University, Columbia State University and Kennedy-Western were schools that fit the classic definition of a "mill" as they require little to no work in exchange for essentially purchasing a degree.

Not only did Steve Levicoff ask me to list the accredited school, but to also reference the source. He was challenging about if I knew what I was talking about. We all should treat others with respect. We all have the right to our opinion. I was wrong for making a statement about how I felt about it as I shouldn't use personal attacks.

At least I'm honest and was man enough to apologize. I appreciate the opportunity to post on here and it's good to have a place to discuss educational issues.

 

Thank you and please realize that is a one-way street with many.

 

Potpourri: "The definition of a diploma mill is to purchase a degree with little or no work required."

John Bear: I like the very clear criteria followed by most members of SHEEO, the State Higher Education Executive Officers association (About SHEEO | SHEEO). If a school does not have clear degree-granting authority from the state in which it is located (or, in very rare cases, by the federal government or an Indian tribe), then its degrees are not accepted or acceptable. Whether or not Liberty or my Uncle Clarence accept them is irrelevant.

Regarding NIFI: during the time when I was in charge of new business development for Pearson (late '90s), I persuaded them to acquire the rights to NIFI and reissue it. I attended a very cordial meeting between Dr. Levicoff and a senior editor of Prentice-Hall (which Pearson had recently bought for $400 million). But sadly Pearson soon after imploded; major management changes, new directions, and it never happened. (Pearson is now a division of Random House, largest publisher in the US, which is in turn a division of Bertelsmann of Germany

 

He, he; where's the like button!!

 

I would have to ask this question and hopefully get an answer that is reasonable; when one becomes an authority what is and what isn't....can it be possible that there is margin for error as some program do change over time for either better or worse?

 

I asked that question being funny, because while potpourri was directing anger toward Mr. Levicoff, he in fact does argue that a non-accredited school is not necessarily a degree mill, he seven mentions Bob Jones University, Luther Rice University, Messenger Collegeto as legitimate unaccredited Christian programs; which are now TRACS accredited! So I guess on that not it is truly better to do your research.

"Yesss Mrs. Puddlesworth I'll be right down as soon as I put this goop in my hair"

 

And my apologies Dr. Levicoff I said Mr. by accident!! It was your book that helped me choose wisely in my professional career choices!!

 

I supported what I had stated and I'll leave it at that. It wasn't so much that I was upset, I was disappointed at the way in which I was treated by him. I'm not going to waste anymore time on the issue of Dr. Levicoff.

Dr. Bear was at least respectful in what he stated. I have enormous respect for Dr. Bear. We all will have differences of opinion. It is how we treat others and that says much about our character.

 

Point taken, reading the posts here I see a lot of people get frustrated by what some of others say. That is the reason I like to do my own research pertaining to schools I will attend. You can make any degree work for you, it's all in how you intend to use it; if you want to enroll in Tripp Bible Institute I say go for it.


"Yesss Mrs. Puddlesworth I'll be right down as soon as I put this goop in my hair"

 

I agree with courtellis. You should enroll in Tripp, potpourri. Quite clearly, you deserve them, and they deserve you.

(Hee-hee!)