Trident University - DBA

Discussion in 'Business and MBA degrees' started by felderga, Apr 22, 2019.

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  1. Steve Levicoff

    Steve Levicoff Well-Known Member

    Is that the best you can do, sanantone?

    Your latest response shows that you are clearly running out of ammunition.
     
  2. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    Ammunition against what? Your off-topic trolling?
     
  3. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Active Member

    Liberty removed the AACSB/ACBSP accredited master's requirement for the DBA. I guess they were deterring too many students.
     
  4. JoshD

    JoshD Active Member

    Well having read through this thread, it quickly went from assisting someone on their DBA program decision to religion and politics.
     
  5. Phdtobe

    Phdtobe Well-Known Member

    Excellent idea! I am not a fan of programmatic accreditation.
     
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  6. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member Staff Member

    And why not?
     
  7. Phdtobe

    Phdtobe Well-Known Member

    Increase tuition and reduce mobility between programs. Also, it reduces access to the profession. RA should be the standard.
     
  8. JoshD

    JoshD Active Member

    I believe that programmatic accreditation helps maintain a baseline standard for the quality of the program. Without programmatic accreditation, in my opinion, prospective students would not have a baseline to judge the quality of a program they are looking at. Sure one could go through the trouble of finding alumni of the program and talking with them but personally, if I see AACSB or ACBSP, I know that those programs have gone through a stringent process and met strict standards. If I am going to be paying money to a university for an education, I want to ensure that the quality of education I am getting is worth the money that I am spending.
     
  9. Jonathan Whatley

    Jonathan Whatley Active Member

    If you were hiring, do you think there are circumstances in which you'd require, indicate preference for, or otherwise strongly prefer, an AACSB or ACBSP degree?
     
  10. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member Staff Member

    And why not IACBE?
     
  11. JoshD

    JoshD Active Member

    I see academia positions all the time in which the job posting states strong preference for an AACSB or ACBSP doctorate. There are most certainly circumstances in which I would require, indicate preference for or otherwise strongly prefer someone with a degree from an AACSB or ACBSP accredited program. Go and look at the major state universities and you will find that probably 90% of the professors have doctorate degrees from AACSB programs. The other 10% are likely Walden, Capella or University of Phoenix graduates who had a masters and was an instructor and needed a doctorate in order to become a professor.

    I have never seen a job posting in academia in which they preferred someone with a degree from an IACBE accredited program. In industry, I see absolutely no issue. In academia, it is very unlikely to land a professor position.
     
  12. felderga

    felderga Member

    Choosing Trident this fall over Liberty (DBA) and Capella (DHA) barring any last minute change of heart. I live in Southern California and close to Trident's main campus so I would have physical access to a few faculty if needed. Liberty's online program at the end of the day is really feels not that much different than the rest of the For-Profit universities out there. Once I got accepted my email and cell phone are constantly getting overloaded with messages to enroll and sign up for financial aid (really very annoying). Any rate cost and proximity were my deciding factors along with a shorter length of program and no comprehensive exam requirement. Again planning on trying out a course this Fall and next winter (both will be fully reimbursed by my employer) and I will continue from there.
     
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  13. JoshD

    JoshD Active Member

    I will say, I had considered a masters from Liberty and I got very annoyed with the constant calls and emails. They need to review that aspect of their recruiting.
     
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  14. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Active Member

    Well, Liberty's "admissions process" may appear for-profit like. However, the school itself is a stable non-profit university with an estimated endowment of $1.43 billion. You aren't qualified to speak on the quality of the program itself unless you've been a student there. Trident, on the other hand, is a for-proft school in every way.
     
  15. Steve Levicoff

    Steve Levicoff Well-Known Member

    . . . that may not be around a year from now. :D
     
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  16. felderga

    felderga Member

    Well I think can speak from someone who has taken course from both top brick and mortar THAT ARE CONSIDERED PUBLIC IVIES that Liberty does operates more like a FOR PROFIT than a traditional university. I never questioned its academics but its over zealous approach in recruitment. I take class thru UCLA Extension and they don't call me to death asking me to enroll. Sorry Liberty can be a bit annoying.
     
  17. felderga

    felderga Member

    Earning a DBA is more of a hobby than a career changer for me right now. Cost was my biggest driver and Trident will probably be about $10-15K less than Liberty or Capella when all is said and done. I'm not getting a big raise with a doctorate nor am I looking for a full time faculty position. I'm fairly comfortable working in my current position that pays me a nice salary with a pension so I won't be job shopping anytime soon. In a perfect world I would have continued wtih a PhD at the University of Minnesota but that's not practical or really doable for my current situation. Trident not going anywhere anytime soon. Trident is successful in recruiting a base mostly of students with a military or law enforcement background and I think Career Ed Corp with continue to capitalize on Trident's strength rather than rip them apart. So this is merely a check the box hobby for me while also maximizing my company's tuition reimbursement benefit.
     
  18. Maxwell_Smart

    Maxwell_Smart Active Member

    Hmmm. I've studied with non-profits and for-profits, never had any issues with calls and emails from for-profits, never got any that weren't just return calls, never got any pressure.

    It's important to remember not to fall into putting all schools of a certain type into one box and assume they all operate the same way. Like any business, every school operates with its own policies and procedures, that's why a non-profit like Liberty can be a bother while other for-profits may not.
     
  19. felderga

    felderga Member

    So back in around late May I had submitted my application along with all of the other required documents. At that time I was told that I would be good to go for fall but that it was too early for me to enroll. This week has been an extreme crazy week for work and I got a voicemail from the Trident Doctoral Enrollment Specialist that I've been working with from the beginning. Apparently I'm still good to go but the first class (the typical doctoral intro course) is full which I guess means I now won't start until winter. The specialist indicated that there has been huge number of Argosy transfer students that have entered the program. So I'm rethinking Trident and may bite the bullet and now go with Capella's DHA program instead this fall.
     
  20. felderga

    felderga Member

    First week down at Trident and so far so good. Got three core courses waived so 36 units (6 core course and 3 dissertation/project course) to go for DBA.
     

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