Threat of the week from Ecole Superieure Robert de Sorbon

RFValve: "[T]his reminds me at Enrique Serna, the lawyer of MIGS that once tried to sue Levicoff. At least they were in States and using a real lawyer with knowledge of US laws...

John: For the record, they did sue Levicoff, who wrote a comprehensive and feisty response. My guess is that it was one of those situations where the client (Sheila Danzig) was not entirely candid with her own attorney. In any event, the suit ended fairly soon after.

 

My dear friend, Europe knew the concept of freedom of speech hundreds of years before America had been even discovered. This is off-topic, but I thought I'd point it out. Otherwise, I fully agree with you.

 

The Spanish Inquisition and Nazi Germany would disagree.

 

That's hardly an argument. If it were, the same would apply to America and racial segregation. You always find more people who fail to live up to known ideals than people who succeed.

 

America must have pickup bad habits from its parent then. That must change.

 

I think saying Serna had "knowledge of US laws" is perhaps stretching the truth a little bit.

As a direct result of his legal action against Levicoff, the State of Texas sued MIGS for $250,000 and won. That was one of the most ironic and wonderful events to come about in the entire MIGS saga.

 

On the 13th of April I responded to one of your messages in this thread

http://www.degreeinfo.com/showthread.php?t=30719

In my response I pointed out that a person who was previously registered on this discussion board, someone calling themselves "Zurich," had registered using an email address that is composed of the very same letters as your screen name. They are also arranged in the exact same order. I asked you to address this situation and you have not done so. I can only assume that the two of you are actually the same person. Multiple registrations are a violation of the TOS and because you have clearly stated your intention to follow the letter and the spirit of the TOS I'm sure that this can be explained. Zurich is now on vacation for an uncertain period of time. If you continue to ignore this request you risk a similar fate.

 

let's stay on topic, please

 

I find it interesting that the FAQ on their web site states "We are not a Diploma Mill!"

Then it must be true.

 

C'est vrais.

 

et tu

What an interesting discussion Robert de Sorbon school always seems to prompt. My two cents :

1. As far as Freedom of Speech , certainly political correctness is even worse in Europe these days than the states , witness the prosecution of Brigitte Bardot , and others for expressing their freedom of speech , however Europe was the birthplace of liberty and freedom - and political correctness certainly is alive and well in America.

2. I find these discussions fascinating but obviously civility has it's place - it seems there is a lot of glee in attacking a school one may disagree with , more on the internet than perhaps one would attack in person - what is it about the internet that prompts such animosity ?

Specifically, reading the posts , i am not an expert on French law , nor of the reputation of Robert de Sorbon in their own country . I do know (a) in France the VAE degree is not considered a "diploma mill product " (b) if French authorities thought for a minute an institution was sullying French culture by being indiscriminate in awarding a VAE degree they certainly wouldn't wait 5 years to do anything ! (c) that i am curious about points raised about the school , and I for one welcome the school's responses .

And considering America seems to be the ovewhelming home of diploma mills, perhaps less jingoism is in order.

However, I agree , the website of Robert de Sorbon definitely coudl stand some improvement to be taken seriously , and perhaps that prompts some of the comments made.

 

On the other hand, if the school is actually run by somebody who lives in Florida (as has been suggested above), and exists in France only as a figment of someone's imagination, or with a tiny office or mailbox service, then there may not be much the authorities can, or care to, do about the situation.

 

Don't worry guys, I've heard that prison food in France is terrific.

 

silvertoday has a clear stance regarding these issues. It's somewhat perplexing to me that she seems at times to have a masterful command of the english language and at other times seems to struggle and have serious problems with the language. Perhaps only 8 posts are not representative and yet if you look at them it's almost as if they were written by two (or more) different people. Or maybe there's a different explanation.

 

Nah... Too high in carbs, you'll be a diabetic within 3 years. Hey, maybe you could claim cruel and unusual punishment, I mean, think of all the pastry you'll have to choke down.

 

I've been to France. That in itself was cruel and unusual punishment.

Never again.

 

Hey what's with the pastry bashing !! American tourists don't seem to complain when they raid french bakeries leaving me with the burned croissant.

To silvertoday: don't mix VAE and sorbon together. If you follow the real VAE, you'll get an accredited degree. The acceptability of the real VAE worldwide is another issue. As I have said before, the VAE was always meant for a national market and no efforts will be made by french authorities to advertise it internationally.

 

Well you won't ever have to worry about me doing that, when I feel like French food I make an 8 hour drive to my home town Baton Rouge, Cajun food is like French food but with personality and minus the pomp. I'm kidding of course, I love French food, not as much as Cajun but love it still.

 

Scandal at French Public Universities

Poor Breizh who thinks that Only French Public Universities are Real..like the croissants...

The ecole supérieure Robert de Sorbon sadlly report that today a scandal rocks the French Public Universities.

As stated by Le Monde and Yahoo.fr Several French public universities sold degrees to Chinese students. This include the public Universities of Toulon, Pau, La Rochelle, Poitiers (unfortunately close to us) and one Paris University. The police raided on March 26, the public University of Toulon and discovered that 100% of the Chinese students get their degrees in management! A penal judge was nominated for corruption .The scheme at the public university in Toulon was:

-The Bribe was $3000 per degree (€ 2700)
-More than 300 degrees were bought in 2008
-The system was in place since 2004

According to a recent TV show the same applies in Public Russian Universities where $10,000 were paid to get a first year examination.

De Sorbon condemns this practice of public universities, which put stains on the French Academical higher education.

It shows that the private sector, which is not involved in this scandal is contrary to Breizhou says, is genuine and respectable.