There is no Republican party

Oh, I'm willing to call the Freedom Caucus fascist collaborators if it makes you feel better.

 

Individuals? Yes. Party? No.

 

No, no. Not a comparison.

Fascism is a defined concept. Take a list of fascist principles and apply them to the Republican Party and see what you get.

 

I differentiate between the whole party vs far right.
I can see a classic fascist strategy to stoke fury and resentment by about 30 members of GOP in congress. And obviously I'm anti fascist.
For example while Fascist ideology strictly enforces gender roles and restricts the freedom of women we see in one major area its different and its the area of abortion.
In the first six years of Nazi rule, from 1933 to 1939, there was crackdown on the birth control movement that was led by the Gestapo.
I don't think its the same in US or GOP, the opposition to abortions is to stop the killings of unborn children that and it may appear similar to some but in my opinion this is not.
Its though in all churches, synagogues etc to value life and protect it.
I can only speak of my self, I support freedom to choose one’s role in society without a discrimination and saying that both parties must embrace a democratic political culture.
Revolutionary socialism eventually leads to communism so lets not forget the far left.

 

...What. It is exactly the same. Women right now are dying or becoming sterile because of unviable and dangerous pregnancies. How is this not even remotely similar?

The US government is NOT SUPPOSED TO BE A CHURCH, SYNAGOGUE, ETC. What the actual flipping heck.

 

Historically the U.S. has always been more receptive to white supremacist authoritarianism than to communist doctrine. Part of that is our long and horrific history of slavery followed by legal discrimination and Jim Crow.

Think about this. In my childhood, separate drinking fountains in public parks were LEGAL.

In Western Washington we were pretty smug. WE weren't racist! Oh no! Then again, when there aren't any black people around, you don't notice your own carefully inculcated attitudes. "South Pacific" got that right. Carefully taught indeed. All through WWII the U.S. military was strictly segregated.

In my lifetime we have made real progress. That's why I find DeSantis so distressing. He wants to erase teaching our children the truth and thus sending us back to that type of society.

 

On the abortion issues you are taking it to the extreme. And its a debatable issue. Pro life vs right to choose.

Who said US gov supposed to be a church? We have separation of state and church.
Yet people who a re voting some are religious , some are atheist etc.

US was founded by people who were going to church. Some call it Judeo Christian values.
Before that the religion was of the native Americans.
Many of the Founding Fathers were active in a local Protestant church; some of them had deist sentiments, such as Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, and George Washington. Some researchers and authors have referred to the United States as a "Protestant nation" or "founded on Protestant principles.

 

DeSantis needs to erase the true history of race in the U.S. and more particularly of his own state in order to push his bullshit "whites as victims" narrative. That narrative is very popular with the GOP Base. Yes, Ron DeSantis is a fascist because the people to whom he addresses his crap are racist fascists whose support he needs.

 

Yes, I'm taking it to extreme examples because women (and babies) are dying needlessly. The only part that is debatable is whether or not the deaths are a social good. The Republicans seem to be largely of the mindset that it's good that women are dying because they deserve it. That, somehow, this doesn't happen to morally upright good Christian women. That only the sl*ts and wh*res are dying.

You did.

This has no bearing on anything unless you're stating that the US Government has a religious imperative to protect the "unborn". It does not.

Not with Trump, DeSantis, etc. - they're quite happy to merge the two into one fascist ideology as long as they get to lead the cult. There are political rallies being held in churches and church services at Republican rallies. Only Democrats are practicing true church & state separation right now.

 

"whites as victims" narrative.?
Something from couple of years back, may explain the narrative,
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/restoring-america/fairness-justice/fbi-report-shows-41-increase-in-hate-crimes-with-anti-white-bias

FBI report shows 41% increase in hate crimes with anti-white bias.
October 28, 2021 03:15 PM

"As a country, we should be striving to have the total amount of hate crimes be zero. Any crime committed against anyone because of their race is unquestionably disgusting and horrific and should not be tolerated. However, the entire story should be told, not just the hate crimes that fit the agenda of liberals and Democrats. Any media scrutiny on the FBI’s hate crime report must include the statistics showing the 41% increase in anti-white hate crimes."

As our politics have fractured increasingly around race, there seems to be more and more confusion about who’s discriminating against whom. For example, a national survey reported that both blacks and whites believed that discrimination against blacks had declined over the past few decades, but whites believed that discrimination against whites was now more common than discrimination against blacks.

In reality the discrimination against minorities is still strong, it can be seen in jobs, renting properties , etc.
More needs to be done to stop discrimination.

 

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Josephine Harvey
Fri, August 11, 2023 at 8:19 AM EDT
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-disqualified-holding-office-conservative-121920656.html

Two conservative law professors argue that Donald Trump is ineligible to serve as president again due to a section of the Constitution that prohibits anyone who has engaged in insurrection from holding office.

William Baude of the University of Chicago and Michael Stokes Paulsen of the University of St. Thomas explain their conclusion in an article set to be published in the University of Pennsylvania Law Review. The constitutional scholars, both active in the conservative Federalist Society, studied the question for more than a year, according to The New York Times.

 

My personal opinion is that Pence would be a far better President than Trump or DeSantis. Pence is honest and honorable. His main problem is that I really doubt that the Republicans would ever nominate him. He wants to run as the VP of the Trump administration. Even if Trump withdraws from the race he would still tear Pence to shreds. I just can't imagine a scenario where Pence could win the nomination, at least not for 2024. His best chance would probably be if Trump fell over dead tomorrow. But even then, the Republican party right now is a cult of personality with Trump being that personality. His memory would probably be enough to deny Pence the nomination.

 

I'm all for that. It would be a solid chance for just about everyone. Of course, there's still DeSantis. Can whatever-it-is strike twice?

 

The GOP won't nominate Pence precisely BECAUSE he is "honest and honorable" and not a rabid hate spewing fascist.

 

I disagree with many of Pence's beliefs. Especially his beliefs on LGBTQ+ issues. But I think those beliefs are founded in his honestly held religious beliefs. The best example of Pence's honesty is probably his actions on January 6. He was under tremendous pressure to try to throw the transfer of power into turmoil. I guess it could be reasonably argued that he just wanted to avoid jail rather than any streak of honor though. Pence has always struck me as an honorable fellow.

 

The impression Pence gives me is of a weak man. A stronger Vice President would have broken with Trump very early on instead of clinging to him until the final moment.

 

Carroll Quigley, Bill Clinton’s mentor, saw it all as a uni-party anyway.

 

Trump gives Republican voters exactly what they want. They don't care--and never have--about his personal, professional, and political behaviors. Those aren't the things they turn to him for and find lacking. They have other priorities.

This is why no one in the GOP can take the nomination away from him. Their voters want him. It's just that simple. Not only is there not a pathway to the nomination for anyone else, no one is even saying how it could happen hypothetically. No one! No one is saying, "Well, if Person A ran and did Thing B, they would beat Trump." Nobody. That's how far-fetched the idea of beating Trump is.

And if any of those chuckleheads even dreamed about beating Trump, they'd wake up and apologize.