The University of Phoenix is expecting sanction from the HLC

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by Shawn Ambrose, Jan 9, 2013.

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  1. Anthony Pina

    Anthony Pina Active Member

    You may be right. There are certainly some high-profile institutions that focused on enrolling high quantities of students without providing the quality and quantity of resources and services to retain them (not just good quality courses, but good quality student services). An accrediting body placing an institution on notice is usually not a headline (unless it is University of Phoenix), as this is not an uncommon occurrence.

    Regarding the "bubble," the latest Babson/Sloan-C report on higher education enrollments (including online enrollments) reported that total higher education enrollments in 2011 fell below the 2010 level (the first time this has occurred in the decade that they have conducted this survey). Online enrollments continued to increase (though at a more moderate rate of 9.3%).

    This difference between a University of Phoenix and other institutions "on notice" (most often community colleges or small private universities) is that Apollo is in the position to be able to allocate a large quantity of funds and can reorganize itself to address the issues raised. Public and small private institutions have less money to throw at problems and, more significantly, cannot easily change their culture, organization, etc.
     
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  2. major56

    major56 Active Member

    I would wager that UOP, as well as any institutions sanctioned, are already familiar with the finding/s (grounds for sanction decision); likely no mystery at all. Nonetheless, the UOP will successfully deal with this issue … so much available capital resource at hand.
     
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  3. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    I'll do you one better.....I used to teach at an online NA school where I finally resigned, because their admissions standards were lax to the point that I had more than one mentally ill student posting maniacal rants in class discussions. One student, in response to an assignment of submitting a 3-5 page paper on what criminological theory they liked the best, submitted a 10,000 word copy & paste article on the history of Buffalo, NY.

    I was making a holy fortune, but in good conscience I couldn't participate in that anymore.
     
  4. CalDog

    CalDog New Member

    Some updates on UoP issues raised in this thread:

    1. Apollo Group has disclosed that HLC is considering putting UoP "on probation", which is a more severe sanction than being "on notice". However, HLC has not made any final decision, and UoP is currently not under any sanctions at all. According to HLC, a final decision about sanctions will most likely be made at a board meeting on June 27-28.

    2. UoP enrollment continues to fall, based on their 2Q13 guidance to investors (the second quarter of UoP's fiscal year runs from Dec to Feb). Their enrollment has now dropped for 11 consecutive quarters.

    476,500 3Q 2010
    470,800 4Q 2010
    438,100 1Q 2011
    405,300 2Q 2011
    398,400 3Q 2011
    380,800 4Q 2011
    373,100 1Q 2012
    355,800 2Q 2012
    346,300 3Q 2012
    328,400 4Q 2012
    319,700 1Q 2013
    300,800 2Q 2013

    Since the peak in 2010, UoP has lost more than one-third of its students, or about 175,000 total. That's a big number -- the equivalent of a large multicampus state university system. For example:

     
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  5. NMTTD

    NMTTD Active Member

    Well, at least UoP isn't being investigated by the Dept of Education or the Dept of Justice, and at least there's no lawsuits or allegations of insider trading. SO I guess that's good, at least.....
     
  6. CalDog

    CalDog New Member

    More updates ....

    1. In the near future, HLC and/or UoP should be making an announcement about the final decision on possible UoP sanctions.

    2. UoP enrollments continue to tank. Their enrollment, which was approaching 500,000 in 2010, has fallen through the 400,000 and 300,000 levels, and has not yet stabilized.

    476,500 3Q 2010
    470,800 4Q 2010
    438,100 1Q 2011
    405,300 2Q 2011
    398,400 3Q 2011
    380,800 4Q 2011
    373,100 1Q 2012
    355,800 2Q 2012
    346,300 3Q 2012
    328,400 4Q 2012
    319,700 1Q 2013
    300,800 2Q 2013
    287,500 3Q 2013

    The latest number reflects UoP's fiscal third quarter, which ran from March through May 2013.
     
  7. Shawn Ambrose

    Shawn Ambrose New Member

    July is shaping up to be an interesting month for UoP and Ashford, since HLC and WASC will announce their decisions in July...
     
  8. SurfDoctor

    SurfDoctor Moderator

    Wow. If enrollments are plummeting now, I can't imagine what will happen if the powers that be take action against UOP.
     
  9. CalDog

    CalDog New Member

  10. graymatter

    graymatter Member

    Hahahaha! I'm wearing mine right now!
     
  11. Shawn Ambrose

    Shawn Ambrose New Member

    If UoP is placed "On Notice", that is less serious then Probation. On Notice is roughly equivalent to a monitoring report, where schools had to correct deficiencies within an accelerated time period. Moreover, at least Higher Ed knows that something is going to happen at UoP, because UoP has been publicly disclosing the issues with HLC. Even if UoP is placed on Probation, it's not a big surprise, and UoP will have time to address issues.

    Ashford however, is a different story altogether. An existing university was denied accreditation from a regionally accreditor. If WASC denies Ashford again, then there's a real mess. BPI's stock would take another beating - and the HLC time clock for establishing substantial presence is ticking.

    Which could lead to this...

    UoP making a bid to purchase Bridgepoint????
     
  12. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Depends on the action. Even putting their accreditation on probation may not have much affect on enrollments. I doubt if that will come up during the heavy-handed sales pitches, and most students won't go looking for it.
     
  13. SurfDoctor

    SurfDoctor Moderator

    You have a point there. Rich, you are going to hit the 10K mark sometime soon. We need to have some sort of party...or maybe a roast like we did for Ted?
     
  14. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    I offered Rich a roast thread at 9,000 posts and he declined.
     
  15. graymatter

    graymatter Member

    Just received this email from Bill Pepicello:
     
  16. graymatter

    graymatter Member

    Ah, here's the whole thing:

     
  17. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    I'm not surprised. Good for them.
     
  18. CalDog

    CalDog New Member

    Another UoP enrollment update

    Haven't checked on UoP's quarterly enrollment numbers in a while. But the pattern hasn't changed; they have now experienced 14 consecutive quarters of falling enrollment. Since the peak in 2010, they have lost more than 200,000 students, or nearly 45% of their peak enrollment.

    476,500 3Q 2010
    470,800 4Q 2010
    438,100 1Q 2011
    405,300 2Q 2011
    398,400 3Q 2011
    380,800 4Q 2011
    373,100 1Q 2012
    355,800 2Q 2012
    346,300 3Q 2012
    328,400 4Q 2012
    319,700 1Q 2013
    300,800 2Q 2013
    287,500 3Q 2013
    269,000 4Q 2013
    263,000 1Q 2014

    Apollo's fiscal year follows the academic calendar, so the "first quarter of 2014" (the final number above) actually represents September 2013 through November 2013.

    When I started tracking these numbers a few years ago, I thought that UoP was facing a significant enrollment dip, but I didn't expect it to go this long.
     
  19. Delta

    Delta Active Member

    Their tuition is not competitive!
     
  20. CalDog

    CalDog New Member

    Midyear UoP Enrollment Check

    Well, something isn't working for them -- because UoP has experienced two more quarters of enrollment decline. That makes it 16 declining quarters in a row, or four years total. Since peak enrollment in 2010, UoP has lost over 49% of its students, and the numbers are still going down.

    476,500 3Q 2010
    470,800 4Q 2010
    438,100 1Q 2011
    405,300 2Q 2011
    398,400 3Q 2011
    380,800 4Q 2011
    373,100 1Q 2012
    355,800 2Q 2012
    346,300 3Q 2012
    328,400 4Q 2012
    319,700 1Q 2013
    300,800 2Q 2013
    287,500 3Q 2013
    269,000 4Q 2013
    263,000 1Q 2014
    250,300 2Q 2014
    241,900 3Q 2014

    Don't know how much lower it can go. New enrollments have also fallen, which implies that the bottom has not yet been reached.

    Apollo's fiscal year follows the academic calendar, so the "third quarter of 2014" (the last number in the list above) actually represents March 2014 through May 2014.
     
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