The Nixon gambit?

The events of Jan 6th require accountability.
The FBI warned about possible hostilities on Capitol, why there wasn't NG deployed or more law enforcement to secure the Capitol and DC?

I don't know the legalities of process of impeachment.
What I find strange is, that in the House, there is no presentation of a case Pro & Con - then a vote.

With respect to rage and pent up hatred
reminds of the communist take over of mainland China.
No executions thanks God, but it appears that vicious public humiliation has started.

 

I think he just going to let this go to new Senate with Harris etc.
Questions will be raised and arguments made "the Constitution specifically says the president shall be removed from office upon impeachment." it does not say "the former president," the Senate's "jurisdiction is limited to a sitting president," barring the possibility of a trial or dispute all the way to SCOTUS.

 

That's Derschowitz' argument but I think it's wrong. The power to bar someone from ever holding federal office again is not trivial nor does it cease to have meaning just because the defendant's term has ended naturally.

 

Also I think SCOTUS is unlikely to rule on the point. There is no appeal to the courts from a judgment of conviction in the Senate.

 

Pence is politically smart. He wants to side step the lose lose scenario that you elegantly laid out.

I'll guess that Trump will ignore his expert's counsel and pardon himself. If nothing else it would at least slow down his legal prosecution by what he hopes would be longer than it would really likely take.

 

What about challenging that the trial it self is unconstitutional? That there is no seating president to unseat.
Again, I have no clue what I'm talking about. Will not pretend I know how this things work. Maybe Trump will hire Dershowits to challenge this thing.

 

Well, Trump is now the only President in history to be impeached twice.

 

The part I just don't get, probably never will get, is why Trump didn’t run a "straight " campaign stressing his accomplishments over the last four years. There is a "there" there. One can legitimately disagree with the tax code changes, the calling out of China, the successful approach to the Middle Eastern deadlock but there's a lot to like in all these things and more, too. Why didn't he talk about Warp Speed and Covid relief? Improved National Park funding? But no. He spewed hate and lies and continues to spew hate and lies. Had he stuck to the truth here he might not have had occasion to lie about election fraud.

 

An executive pardon is a defense to a criminal prosecution. If he's charged, he would file a motion to dismiss which the trial court would either grant or deny. That decision would go almost immediately to the Court of Appeals and probably then to the Supreme Court. We will know pretty quickly whether the self pardon gambit works. My bet is not only "No" but "H*ll no!"

 

And we get Biden. Oy.

 

I think the hostility between the Dem's and Trump starting in 2015 and intensifying over the last 4 + years created this confrontational situation.
Imagine how match more could have been achieved if there was better cooperation between all the sides.
Now that Biden is taking charge I hope he will be able to bridge the divide.
Ain't going to happen overnight.
And there was 74 Million people who didn't vote to have the great reset.
And I speculate additional50 million also don't want it.

 

Just when I'm talking about cooperation and bridging the divide I see this:

Newly-elected Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene announces
"On behalf of the American people - on January 21st I will be filing articles of impeachment on Joe Biden.

Symbolic?

 

if it ever gets to Senate trial Harris can become a President.
From what I see in new rep her determination if GOP gets majority in the House in 2022 they will impeach Biden.
Crazy circle.
Hope they get over the bitterness

 

Impeach for what? He's not even in office yet.

Over the years I've come to appreciate the Founders' wisdom in creating the Senate. I frequently vent my rage and frustration against the Senate but in fact the body serves as a brake on the hot passions of the House.

 

oh, and I would happily take Harris as President.

 

I hope that the GOP can reconstitute itself as a post-Trump conservative party. It would be a serious loss to the country if the Trump Base split the party into two hostile camps. Although I am a Democrat I have no illusions about my party. There needs to be a motivated watchdog scrutinizing everything Biden does.

 

I agree completely! There are many sad scary examples of the dangers of one party rule. Communism is one but even our neighbor Mexico is another. For years they were run by just the PRI party and PAN was tiny. The corruption was rampant. So it is not just Biden that needs the watchdog, the whole government needs the watchdog.