The M.Phil. Degree

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  1. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    You mean the bald guy from Texas - the TV shrink? But he doesn't have a B. Phil. He IS Phil - Dr. Phil, to be exact. No B. Phil., no M. Phil., just Phil - PhD.

    Google "(Dr. Phil) McGraw earned a Doctoral degree in clinical psychology from the University of North Texas, followed by a post-doctoral fellowship in forensic psychology from the Wilmington Institute."
     
  2. Asymptote

    Asymptote Active Member

    So we readily know of the D.Phil., and of course the M.Phil. We’ve also encountered the B.Phil.

    But the real question is:

    Is there such a thing as an A.Phil. ?

    Are there any designated Associate of Philosophy degrees out there? And if so, what do they entail?
     
  3. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    I was unable to find an Associate of Philosophy degree program in North America or a Foundation of Philosophy program in the UK. But then I didn't expect to find one.
     
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  4. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    What do they entail? Two years of study. Want the details? Go to the page. And there are LOTS of them. You could have found these in 2 minutes, as I did. To start:

    Riverside City College: https://www.rcc.edu/pathways/languages-humanities/philosophy-adt.html
    Kwantlen Polytechnic U. - British Columbia: https://calendar.kpu.ca/programs-az/arts/philosophy/philosophy-aa/#:
    Douglas College - https://www.douglascollege.ca/program/aaphil
    Aims Community College https://www.aims.edu/degrees-certificates/philosophy
    Franciscan University of Steubenville https://www.aims.edu/degrees-certificates/philosophy
    Guilford Technical Community College: https://www.gtcc.edu/academics/academic-programs/programs/liberal-arts-humanities/associate-in-arts-philosophy.php
    Fullerton College: https://catalog.nocccd.edu/fullerton-college/degrees-certificates/philosophy-religious-studies/philosophy-associate-arts-degree/

    And many more - I'm sure you can find them. Avoid the "10 best" and "15 best" type of aggregators / aggravators. You'll get many Associate Degrees listed, but few are actually in Philosophy. Going out now -- g'bye.
     
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  5. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Wha?? I got my list straight from Google! Was your computer plugged in and turned on?
     
  6. Asymptote

    Asymptote Active Member

    Johann - Thank you but these are A.A. degrees with a focus on philosophy as a subject. I’m talking about bona fide A.Phil. degrees.
     
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  7. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Good luck. I'd like to find the Holy Grail - or Donald Trump's missing Tax Records. But, like the A. Phil, I don't think they exist! :)

    As we both know, Associate degrees have a rather sparse nomenclature. Usually A.A (Arts) or A.S. (Science) and a subject may follow. There are "specialized" - e.g. A.S.B (Associate in Specialized Business) or A.S.T (Technology..) And also there are the Applied degrees, that are not meant to transfer to a bachelor's - e.g. Associate in Applied Science - Numerology or whatever.

    Oh well, I had a good time anyway. Thanks. :)
     
  8. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    There is a huge difference between a Doctor of Philosophy and a doctorate in philosophy. The term "philosophy" when used in a degree title references a love of learning, not what the person studied.

    I know of the DPhil (or PhD) and the MPhil (often an off-ramp for the PhD, but can sometimes be a stand-alone degree). It would seem odd to extend the term "philosophy" as it is used here to undergraduate study.
     
  9. Asymptote

    Asymptote Active Member

    Apparently there has been some hubbub in India about the good ol’ M.Phil. degree.

    Seems like India’s University Grants Commission “has discontinued the M.Phil degree. The Commission has directed the students not to take admission in M.Phil degree as it is not a recognised degree anymore. The official notice for the same is available on the official UGC website” according to this news report:

    https://www.hindustantimes.com/education/news/ugc-discontinues-mphil-degree-asks-students-not-to-take-admissions-101703671562650.html
     
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  10. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Good. One degree down, a few dozen to go... :)
     
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  11. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    I still like it as a consolation prize for PhD students who only made it part way up the mountain, but oh well.
     
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  12. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    I understand that, Steve. My take: If I got one, it would always be a sharp reminder that I didn't win. And the full horror is - everyone else would know that too. Forever. Nah. I couldn't take that. Just let me go home and regroup.
     
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  13. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    To be clear, it can be awarded three different ways.

    • First, as a stand-alone degree. Rare, but not unheard of.

    • Second, as a "lesser award" for a thesis that just doesn't cut it (and won't, even with major revisions).

    • Third, many UK PhD programs (and others around the world) enroll students in the MPhil first, allowing them to apply to upgrade to the PhD after a year or so of research (assuming good progress). For those that are not upgraded, the MPhil becomes the goal (with its lesser thesis requirement).
     
  14. Jonathan Whatley

    Jonathan Whatley Well-Known Member

    For instance the University of Pennsylvania College of Liberal and Professional Studies awards the M.Phil. as its highest degree, in Liberal Arts or in Organizational Dynamics.
     
  15. Asymptote

    Asymptote Active Member

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