The end of the world!!!

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  1. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

  2. Vonnegut

    Vonnegut Active Member

  3. Vonnegut

    Vonnegut Active Member

    Sorry for quoting myself... I mentioned this in jest, as I was rather apprehensive on how the POTUS speech would go today... Never would I have thought that he would be flanked by the corporate CEOS and our pandemic rescue plan would be summarized by the CEOs of Walmart and Walgreens... letting us know that they will ensure we have retail shopping...

    While honestly, there is a usefulness of bringing both on board for supply chain coordination... while listening to the speech... all I could think of was "Brawndo"... our presidential pandemic response has corporate sponsorship. $1.5 trillion to Wall Street and let's not be hasty, we have weeks to start building test kits, and let's keep on with commerce and shopping until than...
     
  4. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

  5. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

  6. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

  7. LearningAddict

    LearningAddict Well-Known Member

    Being a long-time citizen of China, you know how the government there operates and that your status won't save you from the consequences of open criticism. Shame he couldn't have left before they banned him from foreign travel after his last big criticism. He's either in a prison camp now, or he's been executed, but either way I doubt he'll ever be seen or heard from again after calling President Jinping a clown. Sad that governments behave this way but it's nothing new and no government is above that behavior.
     
  8. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly

    Wow, I'm our resident radical libertarian, and even I don't agree with that bit. But yes, Ren certainly should have known what would happen. Better to go live in Vancouver if you want to speak openly about the Xi regime.
     
  9. LearningAddict

    LearningAddict Well-Known Member

    Hmmm, well, unfortunately, whether you agree or not, it's real, it happens, it's kept track of, nations are named by watch organizations (and the United States has made a watch list on more than one occasion), and it's specifically identified as a known issue in international human rights law under crimes against humanity. Now, maybe every single government isn't doing it, but abuse of power is pretty universal so I'd have a hard time believing there is one out there without a record (or a hidden record).
     
  10. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

  11. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly

    Can one find examples of abuse of power in every country? I'd believe that.

    But making critics of policymakers disappear? No, and that's what we were discussing.
     
  12. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

    I am not any kind of history student. I'm pretty sure I went through my entire college career without taking a single history course. In any case, I don't remember any scandals involving people "disappearing."

    https://www.history.com/news/shocking-political-scandals-united-states
     
  13. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

  14. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly

    It's definitely not the U.S. that I'd hold up as the epitome of human rights.
     
  15. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

  16. LearningAddict

    LearningAddict Well-Known Member

    Yes, I know what we're discussing, and that's what I'm referring to. Forced (or sometimes referred to as "enforced") disappearance is a well-known issue, and as I eluded to earlier it's specifically identified by organizations like the UN, AI, and HRW as a known and happening crime against humanity in many countries. This is very old news.
     
  17. nyvrem

    nyvrem Member

  18. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly

  19. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

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