Tenured UCLA Professor Quits Job, Cites ‘WOKE Takeover' As Reason

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  1. Rachel83az

    Rachel83az Well-Known Member

    You mean the party that, after intense debate, is finally under investigation for being actual, literal, Nazis? Yikes!
     
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  2. Rachel83az

    Rachel83az Well-Known Member

    IIRC, the AfD is also publicly both rabidly nationalist and anti-LGBT but one of the leaders lives in Switzerland with her (Asian?) wife. So, they're just putting on a show of fake morality. If it's not the AfD, it's one of the similar related parties.
     
  3. Johann766

    Johann766 Active Member

    That's exactly the thing.
    AfD would be the equivalent to the republicans in the USA. Since this political opinion isn't welcome in Germany 2022 they are being discredited as being Nazis by the left wing partys in power. It's a method of suppressing a political opinion that isn't welcome by stating they are Nazis.
     
  4. Johann766

    Johann766 Active Member

    As Staated before in this topic:

    Results in unlimited immigration of unqualified immigrants, year long and strict Corona lockdowns, the white heterosexual man as the enemy image, unlimited state debt, second Highest taxes in the world after belgium.
    The social support for unemployed people is incredibly high which lures unqualified immigrants. If you want to benefit from this support just come to Germany claim asylum, even if the claim is rejected the chances of being deported to your homecountry are close to zero.
    And if you don't like it you are being called a nazi.
    After the war we had a homogenous population, today 27 percent have a migrant backround. Among people under 16 years it's 37 percent. I bet in 50 years there are at least 60 percent with a migrant backround.

    Qualified are hard working immigrants move to countries where it is worth performing and working, like Switzerland. Germany tends to be not one of these countries.
    The Euro is on the decline too.


    I could go on with many other things.

    From the outside Germany may seem to bei a good country, my inside perception is that it is a country on the decline. China and east europe are countries on the rise in contrast top that.
    I have to add that my opinion is a minority opinion in Germany, 80 % of the voters vote for partys that support the current system.
     
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  5. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    I do wish Germany hadn't made the same anti nuclear power policy mistakes we see in California. Having to restart coal plants makes me shudder. Really, I can't imagine what caused the ordinarily pretty competent German government to allow itself to become so heavily dependent on RUSSIAN natural gas. The risk was pretty obvious.
     
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  6. tadj

    tadj Active Member

    Dustin,

    You’ve pointed to something that I’ve also noticed with the usage of the word ‘woke.’ I believe that political conservatives make some serious mistakes in this area. They often confuse being woke with holding a set of beliefs. But there is no set of beliefs called woke. Holding a pro-immigration position does not make anyone woke. Believing in gun control, equality, transgender rights or universal health care does not make a person ‘woke.’ Alan Jacobs pointed out that “the core of wokeness is not so much a set of beliefs as a style of believing” (to quote one analysis). That’s insightful. I think that if conservatives started to emphasize that wokeness has to do with the way in which you hold your beliefs, the argument would be more persuasive, as many people could personally observe such woke attitudes among individuals. One can refer to it as an ideology, but only very loosely. Here’s a nice definition taken from the Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/nov/09/woke-word-meaning-definition-progressive):

    “The term is derived from the state of being awake to or conscious of structural inequalities in society and being hyper-aware of one’s own role in those inequalities. Someone who is woke is constantly inspecting every institution in society, looking for the presence of racism, sexism, and other forms of pervasive prejudice.

    What separates someone who is woke from someone who is merely progressive is not only this vigilance and awareness but a fervent belief that everyone must be enlisted into their social causes at all times and that the end justifies the means when battling injustice.

    Unlike traditional liberals, woke Americans place very little stake in value-neutral norms like freedom of speech and non-discrimination. As the antiracist activist Ibram Kendi says, “The only remedy to racist discrimination is antiracist discrimination. The only remedy to past discrimination is present discrimination.”

    A progressive person isn’t necessarily woke. A certain attitude with which one holds these progressive beliefs is required to make the transition.
     
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  7. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    And yet, "value neutral norms like freedom of speech" are exactly those rights guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution!
     
  8. Johann766

    Johann766 Active Member

    Which risk? The gas could still be flowing from russia to germany, it's just that the german government doesn't want to buy russian gas anymore.
    Instead the german government wants to spread it's green woke ideology to other countries like the Ukraine, thats why they dont want russia to occupy the Ukraine.
     
  9. Rachel83az

    Rachel83az Well-Known Member

    Considering a good percentage of Republicans have been wearing Nazi iconography, especially lately, you're not helping your case as much as you think.

    Also, you leave out the part where even the "woke" progressives weren't in agreement about investigating the AfD because of "freedom of speech". But it was decided that the AfD is promoting hate speech of a kind that should NOT be protected. Tolerance of intolerance is, in itself, intolerance.

    There are other conservative parties in Germany that don't get the same treatment as AfD, so one should stop and think about why that is beyond "OMG, wokeness is out of control" because that's obviously untrue.
     
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  10. Garp

    Garp Well-Known Member

    Huh...?
     
  11. Rachel83az

    Rachel83az Well-Known Member

    Republican supporters have recently been wearing things with swastikas, "Camp Auschwitz", and stuff about 6MWE (6 million <Jews> wasn't enough). Also, waving Nazi flags. Like... I don't know how there is any plausible deniability anymore. A large percentage of Republicans are just straight up Nazis. So, saying that your party is "Just Republican" is code for saying that they're Nazi. Pure and simple.
     
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  12. Garp

    Garp Well-Known Member

    Utter nonsense. Finding some guy wandering around with a T-Shirt doesn't mean he is Republican and doesn't equate to "a good percentage of Republicans". Much less saying that "Just Republican" is code for Nazi. I am disappointed at your lack of intellectual depth on this and also am worried because both parties are saddled with such simplistic thinking. The kind that lesbian academic Pagels decried. Is there any hope for better elected officials? We have had Trump and now Biden and Harris. Terrible. We have traded erratic for senile and incompetent. Dana Carvey did an excellent impression of Biden when he hosted Jimmy Kimmel's program. He noted we liked the fumbling around grandpa as a breath of fresh air from Shouty McFatpants but now Biden has become incoherent. He imitated him whispering stuff and then suddenly shouting Pirates of the Caribbean repeatedly.
     
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  13. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Well, it's a special day in that we haven't had an instance of Godwin's Law in a while, but that suggests this thread has run its course.
     
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