Superintendent with Breyer State "degree" taking his lumps

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  1. AuditGuy

    AuditGuy Member

  2. eric.brown

    eric.brown New Member

    "I do not work for you" - Superintendent.

    I'd like to know who that person thinks they work for. A School is financed by taxpayers...the superintendent most certainly works for the taxpayers.
     
  3. AuditGuy

    AuditGuy Member

    Couldn't agree more Eric. I don't if this is the article, but this guy Wasser DEMANDED that everyone call him "Doctor".
     
  4. StevenKing

    StevenKing Member

    Abuse...

    I'm not surprised. I've met too many people who want full accolades for not doing the requisite work. It's sad.

    I realize contractual obligations bind the hands of those higher in the DOE...it seems, however, that something could be done. Fraudulent behavior raises ethical viability questions, doesn't it?
     
  5. eric.brown

    eric.brown New Member

    Indeed it does....but apparently, that doesn't stop some people.
     
  6. cantafforedit

    cantafforedit New Member

    Well he is the first that i must say is able to keep thier job after being (exposed).my!
     
  7. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

    I wouldn't be too quick to conclude that this man has succeeded in keeping his job. As I understand it, this town/area is not exactly a huge metropolis. Small/smaller towns sometimes have their own peculiar way of dealing with these issues. Often times they like things done in a low-profile, low-volume, low-light manner. It's not like the big city where there is lots and lots of anonymity and you can do a bad thing and then lose yourself in the crowd. In a smaller town, when there is a scandal, the implicated people continue to live in the town. You see them in the market. Their kids go to school with your kids, etc. You can't hide. If you've done something bad then everyone you meet knows that you've done something wrong. Only the hardest of sociopaths can live that life.

    There is no need for a splashy firing of the Super. My prediction is that he'll quietly slip away before the end of this academic year. There will be very little said/published about his departure but there will be a big article in the local papers welcoming the new, incoming super.

    This guy, who probably doesn't come from that immediate area, has made a bunch of local people look really really bad. He won't survive this.
     
  8. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator Staff Member

    That seems to be a recurring theme; the people who don't earn the title seem fixated on being addressed by the title they don't earn.

    And to think it bothers me if a student calls me "Mister". :rolleyes:
     
  9. mattbrent

    mattbrent Active Member

    Haha... I liked it better when I was legally a minor and the proper way to address me was "Master" Brent. I like that better :)

    A colleague and I joke that if earning a doctoral degree grants you the privilege of using the title doctor, then earning a masters degree should grant us the ability to be addressed as Master. Now we address each other as such just for kicks.

    -Matt
     
  10. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator Staff Member

    My grandmother used to address my birthday, Christmas, and other cards to "Master Bruce Tait" and it annoyed the hell out of me for some reason.
     
  11. mattbrent

    mattbrent Active Member

    My wife and I had fun with that when we were addressing wedding invitations a few years ago. Good ol' etiquette...
     
  12. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member Staff Member

    Is that a New England thing or a social class thing? I noticed in the movie _Love Story_ (1968), when Oliver Barrett III comes home to introduce his fiancee Jennifer Cavalerri to the family, an older lady runs out of the family mansion excited to see him and she yells, "Master Oliver!" Jenny, the poor baker's daughter from Cranston, Rhode Island, says, "Master? I always knew you had slaves!"
     
  13. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator Staff Member

    My grandparents were from Scotland, so I always assumed it was a U.K. thing. It sounds like it, anyway. :D
     
  14. AuditGuy

    AuditGuy Member

  15. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator Staff Member

    New Jersey has ordered Breyer State to cease and desist?
     
  16. Ian Anderson

    Ian Anderson Active Member

    It is a UK thing (or it used to be when I lived there) to differentiate a son from his father (Master John Smyth vs. Mister John Smyth).

    A master is also a male school teacher in the UK
     
  17. KYarb

    KYarb New Member

    You'll also find similiar etiquette in other countries.

    The term "Master" can be used to refer to the head of a household, or a simply important person (an example would be in Asia, teachers and other important figures are called Sensei), as well as a upper-class (rich) person.

    The term "Young Master" was popular in both European & Asian countries, but I'm not so sure in modern times. It was generally reserved for male children of royalty, powerful men (politicians), and upper class.

    The more you know! :eek:
     
  18. AuditGuy

    AuditGuy Member

    No, individual letters were sent to buyers of unaccredited degrees telling them to cease and desist. Breyer State and Kennedy Westerners were caught. They had to respond in writing that they complied.

    "The state Commission on Higher Education has ordered six more individuals — including a worker at a psychiatric facility, a professor, and two high school teachers — to stop using doctoral titles that the commission deemed void under state law because they were obtained from unaccredited institutions."

    "According to the commission's letters released Thursday, two others received degrees from another apparent diploma mill, Kennedy Western University in Cheyenne, Wyo., now Warren National University.

    Wilhelmina P. D'Dumo, an instructor of psychiatry at the University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey's school of osteopathic medicine, Cherry Hill, and Edward J. Moskal of Kinnelon, an assistant professor of computer science at St. Peter's College, the Jesuit College of New Jersey based in Jersey City, were both ordered to drop their doctoral titles."



    http://www.app.com/article/20081024/NEWS/810240399&referrer=FRONTPAGECAROUSEL
     
  19. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator Staff Member

    Interesting, thanks.

    Is it just me, or are more people with less-than-wonderful degrees being "outed" lately? It's becoming like To Catch a Predator on MSNBC; people are being bagged left & right, yet these schools are still attracting customers in spite of the negative publicity.
     
  20. AuditGuy

    AuditGuy Member

    It seems like it to me too Bruce. I know alot were due to the St. Regis list, but it hasn't been restricted to them.

    Is it unusual for a state to take a proactive approach like this and send out letters? I'm assuming they were complaint-driven in some form, because if they have Google and a couple of hours, they could come up with more than 6.
     

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