SABI University

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  1. Phdtobe

    Phdtobe Well-Known Member

    I took this info word for word from another site

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    Sabi University is an online degree granting university which is located in Paris, France. The university offers a Doctor of Business Administration. The research done within the context of Sabi’s program centers on the novel application of theory within business practices rather than on the creation and testing of theory. The target student for this degree are professional students and not necessarily those who wish to work in the field of academics. Those who participate in the program are expected to integrate their new knowledge into their current working environments. The program utilizes a number of ways to learn including pre- recorded lectures, flipped interactive classroom discussions, case studies, assignments, seminars, additional reading materials and through active research using appropriate quantitative and qualitative methods.

    All courses, seminars and workshops must be completed within the first 20 weeks of the program which are followed by a Grand Final Exam (equivalent to graduate exams in U.S. programs). The program is concluded with a thesis. Tuition is $90 per credit hour with the program being 120 credits in length.
     
  2. mintaru

    mintaru Member

    From that school's accreditation page:

    Does anyone know what that means, ecpecially the part "an online private higher education institute which is legally open under French Code"? It sounds like "legal but unaccredited" by French authorities, but I could be wrong. What makes a French private university instituionally accredited?
     
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  3. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    There's a back-door loophole in French law that allows easy, legal opening of schools. I'm told it's not been closed because it's not possible to forbid one type of association without forbidding all. It's said to explain the reason École Supérieure Robert de Sorbon is allowed to operate, though its degrees are meaningless. I'm not saying SABI is in the same league with ESRDS. It's clearly 'way better, but its degrees still don't have mainstream standing.

    SABI is legal, all right. It's not a State University, on the Ministry's list, so its degrees don't have mainstream standing. I think some people must like the school because it's been around quite a long time. And as for ASIC, let me quote a real expert: "I consider ASIC accreditation meaningless." That's said a number of places on DI, including this thread: http://www.degreeinfo.com/accreditation-discussions-ra-detc-state-approval-unaccredited-schools/51848-global-vision-university-3.html

    I could be wrong, of course, but I'm doubtful if you could get these degrees recognized over here. Legal but no equivalent to institutional accreditation. Business about ASIC being on a CHEA committee is true, but don't ever let it be a smokescreen. Among caveats, ASIC is not recognized as NA or RA for US schools. We've had previous threads on SABI - I believe it was formerly located in Finland and the letters stood for Scandinavian Art and Business Institute - same owner then as now.

    J.
     
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  4. mbwa shenzi

    mbwa shenzi Active Member

    I wouldn't say that either.

    Correct. And all that ASIC, CHEA and ENQA fluff is meaningless. It's just window dressing.

    That's also correct, SABI was operating out of an office on a side street in Helsinki. But, to the best of my knowledge, anyone can start a university of his or her own in Finland, because terms like 'university', 'academy' etc are not legally protected. Think Preston University Finland. Or Firelake University.
     
  5. Phdtobe

    Phdtobe Well-Known Member

  6. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Oh, the memories... Finland had quite a bunch of them, a few years back! :smile:

    J.
     
  7. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    You get what you pay for. I wonder how much that ad cost SABI? That's precisely what it is --- an ad. Easily recognizable as such.
    It's not illegal. Anybody can state a school ranking opinion - and "anybody" does. And they can charge to do so.

    J.
     
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  8. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Brrr! I'll never forget that one! I saw it years ago and got harrowing nightmares of a hellfire preacher in a white suit, raging on about the "Everlasting Lake of Fire" I was to be cast into once I died -or graduated, I forget which. :shock:

    J.
     
  9. mintaru

    mintaru Member

    So SABI-University is considred an unaccredited school within France, as I assumed. But does anyone here know how French institutional accreditation works? I know there is a difference between universities and grand ecoles. It also seems that all recognised/accredited private universities in France happen to be catholic institutions. There also are private grand ecoles. (All private grand ecoles I know are business schools owned/operated by local chambers of commerce.) The problem is I have all that from secondary sources. Who knows more, ecpecially: Which French authority accreditits schools?
     
  10. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

    If you go into the archives and dig up the old discussions on ESRDS (usually referred to by the full name, not the acronym), I think you will find all that information embedded in the discussion. My own summary of what you'll discover is some variant of Levicoff's Rule, "If you think a school might be a scam, it probably is."
     
  11. mintaru

    mintaru Member

    Thank you! However, the search function here isn't that great. I had to use Google to find these old threads.
     
  12. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

    Actually, you're being too kind. The DI search widget is remarkably bad.
     
  13. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

  14. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Some people make a good living, either P/T or F/T writing highly creative bullshit like this. I know a guy who wrote a review of the "ten best restaurants in Arizona," which (predictably) included his client's restaurant. My buddy, the writer, has never been within 1000 miles of Arizona - but he's good at this stuff! I could smell the quesadillas!

    J.
     
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  15. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Yes, it is. It wasn't always that way. About 10 years ago, it was very, very good. Then, IIRC, there was a meltdown of some sort and the site was down for a couple of days. I think I remember reading that a couple of the files the "search" relied on were blitzed and unrecoverable. Never the same since, but a Google search on your topic + "degreeinfo" usually brings success.

    J.
     
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  16. mintaru

    mintaru Member

    I'm sure it does, but it works even better if you add "site:degreeinfo.com" instead. (And many thanks for the link about the French education system.)
     

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