Ryokan College fails to obtain Candidacy status from WASC

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  1. Jan

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    Ryokan College applied for regional accreditation in January 2017 but was recently not granted RA Candidacy status from WASC. Previously, they initiated the application process with DEAC but subsequently dropped this quest and applied for WASC RA.

    The impression is that this school, as well as some other unaccredited California schools, do not have their " "heart's" into the accreditation process and are merely going through the motions of attaining accreditation.
     
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    For more than 40 years, I have followed matters at WISR, the Western Institute for Social Research* and continue to be impressed. They were well along with the ACICS process when ACICS imploded. DEAC was not encouraging, but WASC was, so they are trying to raise what for them would be a very large amount of money to follow that path. I wish them well
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    It's a shame because Ryokan College is a really good school. They were one of the last California approved schools left to get accredited. They should have changed the name to Ryokan University or some other Californian name, to sound like a legitimate school. I realize they have a philosophy but without a revamp, nothing is possible. Small guy always loses but at least they tried. Feel sorry for current students.
     
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    Too much negativity KS. We've seen schools move up the food chain and become accredited. I don't know why Ryokan missed the mark but the fact that they did miss the mark suggests that your first statement, that they are "a really good school" is actually incorrect. If they were a really good school they'd be accredited. That's the whole point.
     
  5. Jan

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    Based on the feedback from this school, they failed to attain RA Candidacy status due to their not possessing the requisite financial standing required by WASC. Ryokan states they're a not-for-profit-school and therefore do not have the financial resources possessed by for-profit-schools.

    Does this imply that Ryokan is a bad school? Imo, in terms of their educational teaching process and outcomes, no. However, it does appear that they are procrastinating and attempting to evade the accreditation process to the last moment, that is being imposed upon them by the California Board to attain accreditation by 2021.

    It will be interesting to observe whether they followup with DEAC, and if so ( they previously started this process with DEAC but dropped it when deciding to seek WASC accreditation), whether they will follow through until accredited.
     
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    I've always been fond of Ryokan and have always considered them one of the better California approved schools.

    Here are the latest 2016 Psychboard results broken down by school.

    http://www.psychology.ca.gov/applicants/exams/2016_statsbyschl.pdf

    As currently constituted, there are two exams, a California Psychology Law and Ethics Examination (CPLEE), and a Examination for Professional Practice in Psychology (EPPP).

    In 2016, Ryokan had 3 graduates take the CPLEE, all of whom passed (a 100% pass rate). Sounds pretty good so far. But...

    10 took the EPPP and only 3 passed (a 30% pass rate). Pretty bad, one of the worst showings of any school. Not the absolute worst though.

    4 Capella graduates took the EPPP and 1 passed (25%).

    3 UC Berkeley graduates took the EPPP and only two passed (67%)

    I didn't see any IUGS test takers.
     
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    Many knowledgeable people have spoken highly of Ryokan. So many, that it has be a very good school. No other option. I, too, hope they can sort out their accreditation issue. I don't want to see them leave for Panama... :shock:

    J.

    PS - I almost wrote it MUST be a good school ... but I remembered all the bad MUST U. jokes, just in time. :smile:
     
  8. johnnysack

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    What happens to the current students seeking licensure in California as a psychologist? The California board of Psychology requires all schools be regionally accredited by 2020. Ryokan might be forced to drop the Psy.D program and go with the MFT only route (until that board decides to change it's requirements). I don't see anyone accepting current students as transfers at other colleges . Someone needs to step in and help enrolled students.
     
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    hey

    it is ridiculous that you point out some one's negativeness. The whole point of having forums is to express yourself. You do not have the right to bully someone. Just because you are a veteran for the degree info website does not make you the leader of the positive and negative movement on this website. I feel your statements, make me sick, in this discussion. I apologize to the person who wrote his or her opinion. I always appreciate the info you provide Kizmet but please try to encourage expression rather not a dictatorship. Please let people speak their minds. I am so disappointed in you. All the respect I had for has been flush down the drain.
     
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    1. This isn't a government organization, so Constitutional protections don't apply.

    2. Who are you?
     
  12. Jan

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    I was under the impression that Ryokan made application for accreditation with DEAC, BUT in fact they haven't, and initially have to undergo a review by the California Bureau for Post Seondary Education, which will take a significant amount of time and if successful and approved, will only then be eligible to apply for DEAC accreditaion. So in fact, taking the best case scenario, Ryokan MAY be accredited in late 2019!

    As mentioned previously, it appears that schools such as Ryokan, and other unaccredited California schools, have been very ambivalent about seeking any accreditation, resulting in procrastination meeting the deadlines imposed by the California Bureau for unaccredited schools to attain legal accreditation. This is really too bad because Ryokan appears to have a credible doctoral program and a unique delivery system of live online interactive courses, that distinguishes it from other distance doctoral programs in Psychology.
     

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