Republicans Want Smaller Dictionaries to Prevent Crimethink

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  1. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    This is generalized slander. Talk about believing something without evidence!
     
  2. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    I would like to first hear examples of what Maniac Craniac was talking about. To be fair here's what I think is an excellent example for the right believing stuff without any evidence. That is that 70% of Republicans believe that Trump really won the 2020 election. There is no real evidence supporting that Big Lie. Over sixty failed court cases prove it to be false though.
     
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  3. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    I really don't have any expertise on the subject.
    But I do think that majority of parents think this way.
    And there are cases when kids matured and thanked parents for not allowing them to rouin their lives.
    I'm aware of other outcomes, as there are different emotional levels.

    I do think strongly, that the kids shouldn't be allowed any surgical involvement till they are at a legal age to make decision for themselve.
    This is not saying that they should be shamed or mistreated.
     
  4. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Current best scientific thinking on the topic disagrees with you. Here's an Associated Press article on the subject. That means top notch accurate reporting.

    https://apnews.com/article/gender-transition-treatment-guidelines-9dbe54f670a3a0f5f2831c2bf14f9bbb
     
  5. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    While I think I understand to a degree what the research shows, the benefits of having the process and procedure done earlier etc. Yet I was more concerned with the ability of the child to make such decision in the first place.
    I think most parents prefer such decision is made when level of maturity of the child is at the legal age.
    So while the benefits/results are more optimal at age 14 instead of age of 17 etc, the child shouldn't be allowed to make the transformation without 100% parents approval, and in my humble opinion be of legal age.
    Even if I think the whole trans issue is totally wrong.
    Just personal opinion
     
  6. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    The AP was reporting what a particular interest group recommends, and included a section of comments from medical and psychological professionals who don't agree with it. It's not reasonable to equate that with "current best scientific thinking".
     
  7. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    What I was referring to was Lerner's statement that medical treatment should be delayed until the kid is an adult. I took that to mean 18 and laws to prevent earlier medical treatment than that. As the article states there are earlier treatments that can be reasonably taken under consultation with medical personal, parents and patients. I think it is fair to say that current best scientific thinking on that point is clear from the article. The particular interest group was pushing past that it is true but the article also describes what current best scientific thinking is.
     
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  8. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Fair enough.
     
  9. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    Which way? You are not at all clear.

    Here is what I think: trans kids exist. I do not know what they and their families are going through; I just have no reason to believe that any of them would take any medical steps towards transitioning without very, very, very good reasons. Contrary to the weird notions on the right, it is not easy or fun to go through something like this as a teen. So I would love to leave these cases to families and medical professionals and resist the calls to get DeSantis and the government involved. Besides, it is my understanding that in most to all cases, we are talking puberty blocker therapy here, a thing that's reversible. The surgical transition of minors is exceedingly rare and might not even be real (just like "full-term abortion").

    Terrific. Please let them know you would like them to get the dictionaries back on the shelves in school libraries.
     
  10. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    The law may seem to be about protecting children, but it is not. Evidence? The underlying threat of rampant pornography in school libraries does not exist. It's worse than a myth; it's a lie. The actual intent is to harass and freeze out certain people and concepts in a classroom. Example: a teacher being investigated for showing Disney's "Strange World" in a classroom. Because it includes a gay teenage character, the gayest thing he did on screen being asking a classmate out on a date. That's "inappropriate" according to pervy DeSantis buddies from Moms for Liberty; multiple hetero PDAs in the same move are A-OK.

    https://variety.com/2023/politics/news/florida-teacher-investigation-strange-world-1235613607/

    P. S. I watched Strange World. It's not Disney's best; the overriding environmental agenda there is way too in-your-face. But "pornography", it is not. And yeah, the main character should totally ask his crush out for a date.
     
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  11. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Book banners don't want to keep their children from reading certain books. They want to keep your kids from reading certain books.
     

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