Remote/Online Gigs (Faculty & Admin)

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  1. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    I suppose the point is that this is cheaper than actually hiring admissions people?
     
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  2. chrisjm18

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    So, I have a confession.. lol

    I applied for the admissions gig at Bottega. I got an email from the president the same night. He and the academic dean interviewed me. Of course, they (mostly the academic dean) wanted to know why I wanted to transition to admissions/enrollment. Anyway, I really don't. I just want a full-time remote gig so I can travel domestically and internationally until I get bored.

    If they call me, I won't consider the position any further. Being on the phone is not something I would look forward to each day. I once worked in a 24/7 intelligence-led call center when I was a police officer working in the intelligence bureau of the police department.

    On another note, I interviewed for a full-time program manager of online programs with faculty responsibilities (2 courses/semester). The job description stated that the position could be remote with approval from the provost at the time of hiring. If I advance and eventually get the position, that's the only work arrangement I would accept.

    This semester, I have been mostly remote (one asynchronous; one Zoom - high school dual enrollment; one on-campus 2 days/week). I moved the on-campus to Zoom 2 weeks ago, but we will return to in-person in 2 weeks. I prefer in-person in some sense. But I love the flexibility of being remote. My spring schedule is fully remote (two asynchronous courses and one Zoom - high school dual enrollment). I may extend my Christmas trip to Africa into the spring semester :D:D
     
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    Sharing a recent adjunct interview experience. So, I applied for an adjunct faculty position at Capella (Guided path, doctoral-level). During the phone interview, they told me that:
    1. The program (human services) will phase out in 5 years
    2. I'll have one student to start (kinda like competency based I guess)
    3. The course is 10 weeks and pays $400/student

    I knew I'd never consider that. Anyway, they didn't move me forward, so that was easy for all of us :)

    I'll be making $4000 /course at Arizona State starting in the spring. I already have one course on schedule and was approached to possibly teach a second. Why would I accept $400 when I can make $4000?!

    Haha. These for-profit schools are laughable.
     
  7. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    I looked into Capella (to be a student) many years ago, and they totally turned me off.

    I felt like I was at a car dealership, with some sleazy salesman trying to upsell me with fabric protector, paint sealant, etc. There was always another fee just around the corner.
     
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  10. JoshD

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    I landed an Adjunct Instructor position at the local community college. The business courses I will teach will be online courses. They had initially asked if I wanted to be a full-time faculty member but at $40,000 per year, I could not take the substantial paycut from my industry position.

    They also asked if I would he interested in developing business analytics courses for them so that they can offer those courses.
     
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  11. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    That would be a pay cut from being a barista.
     
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  12. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    @JoshD $40,000 is exactly what I was making in 1993, the year I retired. Google says that's equivalent to $82,161.38 today. Josh - see if they'll go that far, maybe. :) Make 'em do the math - and stick to it.
     
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  13. JoshD

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    That was my thought!
     
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  14. JoshD

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    Even at $82,161.38 it'd be a reduction in pay. :(
     
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  15. SteveFoerster

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    Then... I mean, you can only be so sad about that, right?
     
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  16. cacoleman1983

    cacoleman1983 Well-Known Member

    These full time instructors at community colleges and many state universities are paid so poorly, even for those with a PhD. I have the education bug after over a year of being out of the higher education and have landed a part time tutoring job back at my community college that I left teaching at 8 years ago. I'm doing it to make some extra money moonlighting while working my virtual job on my work laptop provided I am not shot down for conflict of interest. Sadly, the job still pays $15 an hour for Masters and PhD earners which has not increased since I started working there in 2009. Admissions counselors are still poorly paid making between $29k and $31k a year with a Masters degree recommended for the position. There is a lots of turnover and K-12 teachers are out-earning many of the full-time college instructors there now. I earn more than 90% of the full-time instructors that are working there in my industry job.
     
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  17. JoshD

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    They are going to pay me $600/credit hour. All the courses I will teach are (3) credit hours.
     
  18. Vonnegut

    Vonnegut Well-Known Member

    Community college salaries have generally slid behind, often far behind k-12 salaries, in many states. They just generally do not receive the political/legislative support as k-12 or state university systems receive. The funding models in many states, have the community colleges funded at a third of the rate that universities receive, for the same lower level course offerings. As their funding models have stagnated, they are often transitioning out of necessity, to operational models based on finding faculty who are unicorns. Those who just want to be collegiate faculty members (for either intrinsic or extrinsic reasons), and are not concerned with salary. Of course… that isn’t often achievable, so we’re seeing a lot of program closures at many community colleges. Particularly in areas with high competitive wages, such as welding, hvac, automation, dental assisting, and even nursing.
     
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