Proceeding with MIGS programs

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Nice to see you back, Izzy. You haven't changed a bit! (Sleazy as ever.)

 

I invited Mr. Litman to write to me. He did, and the following is the result:

Mr. Litman:

I remember you well from a.e.d. Nonetheless, I will try to answer you from my perspective and (somewhat removed) position.

--- israel litman wrote:
> Dear Mr. Richard C Douglas,
>
> 1. I am so delighted to have your invitation to
> write you directly...and so grateful in advance for
> your assistance with proceeding with MIGS:
> 2. Once there was in Dr. Bear's web site a story
> about an American who did it all through exams only
> and get the degree from Charter Oak College /
> University...If you ahve any clue to this case - it
> will help as well...

This happens all the time. I completed a second bachelor's degree with USNY Regents entirely by examination.


> 3. As to MIGS: of course, Rich, I'll be VERY glad
> if you could help me and every of the rest of the
> students remained in the program.
> Mr. Ric Feinberg just returns on his mantra
> "follow the directions. see the web site"/
> So pity.
> A. Mrs Nava K . i has submitted so many documents
> showing her so rich educational and professional
> background - and nothing. No referring. Pity.
> B. Dr. Baruch Y has submitted his doctorate and
> many other papers - he was asked to submit the
> transcript. for this reason I have asked about this
> problem.
> C. Mr. Jacob T is the last student who has sent
> through me his ORIGINAL translated documents showing
> his Master's and Bachelor's degrees and his Teacher
> Certificate etc.
> NOTHING happened.
> Finally - even a cheque that was disappeared: I
> have asked the Israeli post office to investigate
> this case of the cheque, but maybe MIGS could search
> a little meanwhile...
>
> Of course all your work , your help will be
> considered in the most respectful and efficient way,
> if may I say that...
>
> Yours,
>
> Israel


I have nothing to do with the operation of MIGS, and never have. I consulted them for a year in return for the promise of doing a degree tuition-free. I did the work for them, but did not enroll in the degree program. I severed all ties with them last August.



>
> P.S.
>
> [תו×ר] Why do he thinks eleven times
> each of the students choose MIGS ?
> Because they wanted an accredited University;
> concrete program;Real cost and 100% DL.
> They have seen that MIGS is really accredited ,
> included in the prestigious International UNESCO's
> Directory,and it fits to their needs, to each of
> them.
> The only problem is as I have indicated: fogginess
> and sticking in the implementation.
>


The UNESCO International Handbook of Universities is not normally described as "prestigious." It is merely a listing of universities recognized by their own countries' higher educational systems. This is sometimes used by universities to make decisions regarding the acceptability of degrees from foreign schools. Of the several such guides, it was found to be less important than the others in such decisions.

The Centro de Estudios Universitarios in Monterrey is recognized by the Mexican government. The IHU decided to include them in their most recent guide, and included information about the distance learning programs. The information itself comes from the school. It may or not be true.

It appears MIGS and CEU have an agreement, but the exact nature of that agreement is mysterious. It is not clear whether or not the CEU may issue doctoral degrees via MIGS, regardless of their agreement with MIGS. It is also not clear that such a degree would be recognized in other places as being comparable to other doctorates issued by Mexican universities.

MIGS does not operate legally as a university in any state in the nation. This includes Nevada (where they are incorporated as a for-profit business), Texas (where they claimed they operated in their suit against Steve Levicoff--despite having no business presence there), and Florida, where they are really located, operating despite being told not to do so by Florida authorities.

I'm sorry I could not be of more assistance. Unfortunately, the only source I know of for assistance is the same one you find so unacceptable: MIGS.

Sincerely,

Rich Douglas

 

There was a time when I would have been amazed that the Israeli representative of an "accredited University" would need to come to a public discussion board to try to find out how to get his students through their "concrete program" that "fits to their needs, to each of them."

"Fogginess and sticking in the implementation" indeed!

 

I understand very little about this thread. Some person named cul (Isreal?) using a strange variation of English seems to be asking questions that don't make a whole lot of sense in the claimed context.

I suspect that Steve has a clue about the real context. In the hopes that it is amusing, could someone explain/speculate what the deal is?

 

Israel Littman (aka Cul), an apologists for American Coastline University and Ray Chase (who operated several degree mills), used to hang out at AED. He "brawled" with Steve Levicoff a few times and one of such cyber scuffles between him and Steve can be found here <A href="http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=38E4B839.221DF724%40bezeqint.net&output=gplain">Israel Littman versus Steve</A>
A few days ago, he sneaked into this forum to ask questions about MIGS. It seems that he is now a doctoral student at MIGS. He used the name "cul" to post his question and [email protected] is his real email address. Gert probable searched the net/AED and found out that "cul" and "Israel Litman" are the same person.

 

Israel Littman (aka Cul), an apologists for American Coastline University and Ray Chase (who operated several degree mills), used to hang out at AED. He "brawled" with Steve Levicoff a few times and one of such cyber scuffles between him and Steve can be found http://groups.google.com/groupsselm=38E4B839221DF724%40bezeqint.net&output=gplain

A few days ago, he sneaked into this forum to ask questions about MIGS. It seems that he is now a doctoral student at MIGS. He used the name "cul" to post his question and [email protected] is his real email address. Gert probable searched the net/AED and found out that "cul" and "Israel Litman" are the same person.

 

The hyperlink is not working. You may try it again here (or click the one provided above by Gert) http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=38E4B839.221DF724%40bezeqint.net&output=gplain

 

I don't have any inside information here. I made the connection between "cul" and "Israel Litman" (who posted on AED) because a quick Google search revealed that their email addresses and web-site URLs were the same. Moreover, the (ab)use of English is quite distinctive.

Mr. Litman represented American Coastline and (more recently) MIGS in Israel. His questions here appear to relate to 11 students who signed up with MIGS through him.

 

I knew of the guy from my a.e.d. days, which go back to 1995. I never thought he'd actually write me! That's why I posted his e-mail and my response without comment. As anyone who has read what I've written about MIGS knows, I feel the whole thing stinks. And that goes for those connected with ACU and Summit who post around here. So there.

Rich Douglas

 

Nice catch, Gert.

By the way, for the enjoyment of those who were not around in the old A.E.D. days, there is another unofficial connection between American Coastline University and MIGS: One of ACU's more well-known graduates is "Doctor" Sheila Danzig, who also hosted ACU's official web pages a few years ago . . . on her own site.

All together now, "It's a small world after all . . ."

 

Steve writes, By the way, for the enjoyment of those who were not around in the old A.E.D. days, there is another unofficial connection between American Coastline University and MIGS: One of ACU's more well-known graduates is "Doctor" Sheila Danzig, who also hosted ACU's official web pages a few years ago . . . on her own site.

And furthermore: Ray Chasse also established Dominion University of Melchizidek for the criminal known as Branch Vinedresser, ostensibly located in the country of Melchizidek, which Vinedresser founded (located either in central Europe or on an out island of Fiji) for the main purpose of peddling bank charters. Sheila Danzig was also an official of Dominion University, and, if memory serves (memory is batting about .500 these days), so did Mr. Litman in Israel.

Footnote: because the Melchizidek Embassy actually got listed under Embassies in the Washington DC yellow pages, they got onto various mailing lists, and apparently received an invitation to compete in the Olympics.

Let's see. There would be the Downhill Slide. Throwing the Bull. Casting the Aspersion . . .

 

Dr. Bear,

Is that your answer for sure to my message ?

 

My "answer" to your message, Mr. Litman, is that at this time, I would not recommend MIGS to anyone, and I think that anyone who does is making a major ethical and perhaps legal error.

If I am convinced that there is even one MIGS graduate with a diploma issued and confirmed by CEU in Mexico, then I may revise my opinion.

 

Dr. Bear,
Now what about Charter Oaks College and the detailed case of Mr. Roger Habeck's experience earning his B.A. degree totally through exams in about 10 months for $1800
which was published once at your web site -
can it be published again ?
Is it possible to be done through other Colleges / Universities as well (like Excelsior College / University, Empire State College, Thomas Edison ... etc.) ?

 

Dr. Bear -
If you could now publish again the detailed story of Mr. Roger Habeck's experience earning his Baccalaureate degree from Charter Oaks College / University totally through exams in about 10 months for $1800
(I understand that it can be done, and through other Institutes as well, like Excelsior College / University, Empire State College, Thamas Edison...etc.).

 

Originally posted by cul:
Dr. Bear -
If you could now publish again the detailed story of Mr. Roger Habeck's experience earning... (snip)


If you could now please do your own homework? This question has already been answered, more than once, on the main forum.

And if you really want to learn about the process of using portfolio and exam credits to earn your degree, for chrissakes please buy Bears' Guide to Earning College Degrees Nontraditionally (14th edition) and otherwise known as BG14, which was written specifically to provide that sort of information.

If you search through the threads on this board, you should be able to find the answer to just about everything you'd want to know about the process. Lawrie's 4 week BA essay pretty much answers all of the same questions as well.

So please DO YOUR HOMEWORK, make your calls, and learn about it on your own before posting the same questions in a dozen different ways.

Thanks

 

Thanks indeed, Chup:

1. I have (bought) already the updated Dr. Bear's Directory.
BTW: There is no reason not to buy ANOTHER directory.

2. I have the detailed story I'm seeking for. It's only question of time.
Paralely (to my HOME (...) work, I thought
it's good idea to ask Dr. Bear to publish again the story as additional similar cases
- after "web"-work , attempts to find it by myself in his website.

3. Parallely - Charter Oaks itself as other institutes are the relevant addresses...

Summing up: There Are Good Matters Everywhere...For the imagination of
writers' and readers' heart is not evil from their youth...

Thanks. Thanks indeed. Bye Bye. To everyone here.

 

Good Grief. Somebody bring me a Babel Fish.

 

Perhaps it's poetry:

 

In which case I hope my small intestine doesn't strangle me.

jon